Joseph E. Johnston

[Tin cup]

I don't understand folk who somehow think Johnston was to take a small number of men right off, and get into Vicksburg and rescue those troops? All Grant had to do was "open the door" and let him in, close the door, and trap him too...
"By the way I saw in Joe Johnston's book that when I was asking Pemberton to surrender Vicksburg, he was on his way to raise the siege. I was very sorry. If I had known Johnston was coming, I would have told Pemberton to wait in Vicksburg until I wanted him, awaited Johnston's advance, and given him battle. He could never have beaten that Vicksburg army, and thus I would have destroyed two armies perhaps. Pemberton's was already gone, and I was quite sure of Johnston's. I was sorry I did not know Johnston was coming until too late."
U.S. Grant.

The Dalton Statue of Johnston is a good one, have seen it twice myself. Am glad it's took care of. The one of him at Bentonville is awful.

Kevin Dally

 

[Conservator]

The Dalton Statue of Johnston is a good one, have seen it twice myself. Am glad it's took care of. The one of him at Bentonville is awful.

Kevin Dally

When it comes to sculptures, Dalton has one of the best quality sculptures I know of. Tiffany had some of the best artist working for them and the detail is amazing.

 

[TinCan]

The Dalton statue represents him a lot better than he did himself.

 

[kepi]

You know, I try to like Old Joe, I want to like Joe, but Joe just didn't have his heart in it, he is a true enigma, but he still has his supporters. I think he was a fine gentleman but I can never really forgive him for languishing 47 days while our ancestors starved and died inside the Vicksburg lines. By the way, you know tomorrow, May 22 is a really significant date because it is the day Grant attacked and was completely REPULSED by the Confederates, losing 3199 casulties to only 500 for the Rebs, but sadly GGGUncle Nathaniel was killed near the Second Texas Lunette. Lets all remember these men at 10:00 am tomorrow morning, the time when Grant attacked.

Ugh! What was he thinking!

 

[alan polk]

He saying . . . We will retreat that way !

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

That just made my dead-gum day, too!!!! Thanks!!!!!!

 

[Nytram01]

The Dalton statue is magnificent. Even as a Johnston fan I lean towards it being of superior quality than his record would deserve.

 

[CSA Today]

He saying . . . We will retreat that way !

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

I would like to think Johnston is pointing toward Carlin's fleeing XIV corps division and urging Braxton Bragg to get into the fight.

 

[diane]

The Dalton statue is really very nice. Glad it's getting cared for so well! The one in Bentonville...well, it leaves something to be desired. Now I know what's up with the uniform - didn't know there was a wet uniform contest going on!

I think Joe Johnston is largely misunderstood. He knew how to use retreat as an effective weapon but, unfortunately, it didn't inspire people very much.

 

[Buckeye Bill]

I feel sorry for Bentonville General Joseph E. Johnston.

Poor guy.......

 

[JeffBrooks]

He saying . . . We will retreat that way !

Well, he's certainly NOT saying, "We will launch our futile attack that will uselessly kill hundreds of men for no result over there!"

 

[alan polk]

Well, he's certainly NOT saying, "We will launch our futile attack that will uselessly kill hundreds of men for no result over there!"

Such is war and such Grant said and did. Men of action and risks win wars quickly and decisively?

 

[7th Mississippi Infantry]

Well, he's certainly NOT saying, "We will launch our futile attack that will uselessly kill hundreds of men for no result over there!"

It was meant in jest.
Thus the bouncing emoticon.

 

[Kenneth Almquist]

He saying . . . We will retreat that way !

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

But you've got to admit that he has a commanding visage. Sure, at Yorktown, when he finally gave an order, it was to retreat. But that was after keeping McClellan's army at bay for over a month just by looking intimidating.

 

[7th Mississippi Infantry]

But you've got to admit that he has a commanding visage. Sure, at Yorktown, when he finally gave an order, it was to retreat. But that was after keeping McClellan's army at bay for over a month just by looking intimidating.

Once more.

I was not trying to upset the Johnston Fan Club.

BTW, it's a great statue.

 

[Kenneth Almquist]

Once more.

I was not trying to upset the Johnston Fan Club.

BTW, it's a great statue.

Don't worry about that. I'm not really a Johnston fan, and you are right that he did retreat a lot.

 

[JeffBrooks]

Such is war and such Grant said and did. Men of action and risks win wars quickly and decisively?

Win quickly and decisively, eh? You mean like Lee did at Malvern Hill and Cemetery Ridge?

 

[alan polk]

Win quickly and decisively, eh? You mean like Lee did at Malvern Hill and Cemetery Ridge?

Yes precisely, the counterpart is they lose it quickly and decicively too. That is how war, quo war, operates. If it is not quick and violent, it is slow and grueling, in short, a sort of gurealla warfare where Atlanta is defended in Key West, Florida. Lee and Grant were men of action who understood their people and society. They were both correct. Lee knew his "south" was not willing to play Johnston's theoretical military game of a never ending conflict where the game ended by "slow" attrition

 

[Nytram01]

Such is war and such Grant said and did. Men of action and risks win wars quickly and decisively?

Actually, I would argue against that in a way.

Jeffrey Amherst, for instance, was able to achieve success after success after success in North America by doing the opposite - being deliberate and methodical in his actions, advancing cautiously and entrenching at strategic points then halting to secure said points and improve lines of supply and communication to them before advancing again, ensuring that he was never weak enough to be threatened by either the armies of his enemy or by the guerilla fighter employed by said enemy, and ensuring that any territory he took he kept. From the position of being able to command a greater number of troops and far more supplies than his enemy he was able to take his time, break down the French control of what was then French North America bit by bit by taking each strategic strong point in turn in a show of overwhelming force.

But there's the rub. It works when you are the stronger side and have time on your hands to do it. When you are the weaker of the combatant you need to take greater risks.

 

[gunny]

The Dalton statue is really very nice. Glad it's getting cared for so well! The one in Bentonville...well, it leaves something to be desired. Now I know what's up with the uniform - didn't know there was a wet uniform contest going on!

I think Joe Johnston is largely misunderstood. He knew how to use retreat as an effective weapon but, unfortunately, it didn't inspire people very much.

Don't think you are aware of how inspiring Johnston was to the Army of Tennessee then!

 

[Lnwlf]

Once more.

I was not trying to upset the Johnston Fan Club.

BTW, it's a great statue.

I am a Johnston fan... and I am upset......