Lt.Arty Is this cannon missing something?

[major bill]

Any thoughts on the puddled wrought iron (semi-steel) rifle?

 

[rebelatsea]

Any thoughts on the puddled wrought iron (semi-steel) rifle?
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my first thought was poor replica - no vent piece, or sights, and the breech end doesn't seem quite right.

 

[redbob]

It would appear to be a replica of a Wiard Rifle. Where was the photo taken, there are originals at Shiloh and Stones River. Photo LoC

 

[Seduzal]

Nice photo but no clue.

 

[Cpl. Smith]

no clue! mabey experimental light weight cannon

 

[major bill]

It is a stock photo of the Wiard 6-pdr cannon from on line so I am not sure it is a replica or not. Do they even make repilcas of these? My question is, why is their no cascabel to attach arresting ropes to deal with the recoiled of firing the cannon? The Wiard Rifle System must have dealt with recoil by another method.

Now I will keep thinking about this to I read more on the Wiard Rifle System.

So what is puddled wrought iron (semi-steel) and where was the "puddle"?

 

[redbob]

It is a stock photo of the Wiard 6-pdr cannon from on line so I am not sure it is a replica or not. Do they even make repilcas of these? My question is, why is their no cascabel to attach arresting ropes to deal with the recoiled of firing the cannon? The Wiard Rifle System must have dealt with recoil by another method.

Now I will keep thinking about this to I read more on the Wiard Rifle System.

So what is puddled wrought iron (semi-steel) and where was the "puddle"?

Puddling is when iron ore is put into a molten state without the ore actually coming in contact with the fuel (only the combustion gases).
Replicas of the Wiard Rifle are made by at least one manufacturer.
Wiard Rifles came in 6 & 12 pounders and besides not having a casabel, they had a rather peculiar carriage, unusual sights and the ability to be elevated much higher than a normal piece. Photo LoC

 

[UCVRelics]

why is their no cascabel to attach arresting ropes to deal with the recoiled of firing the cannon?

Cascabels were primarily used on ship board guns for obvious reason. Most land based cannons just recoiled back on there wheels.

 

[major bill]

Susposablely the unique Wiard carriage only rolled back half as far as a normal carriage.

 

[Kurt G]

It is a stock photo of the Wiard 6-pdr cannon from on line so I am not sure it is a replica or not. Do they even make repilcas of these? My question is, why is their no cascabel to attach arresting ropes to deal with the recoiled of firing the cannon? The Wiard Rifle System must have dealt with recoil by another method.

Now I will keep thinking about this to I read more on the Wiard Rifle System.

So what is puddled wrought iron (semi-steel) and where was the "puddle"?

Steen Cannons does make a decorative ( non -functioning) replica

 

[TerryB]

It is a stock photo of the Wiard 6-pdr cannon from on line so I am not sure it is a replica or not. Do they even make repilcas of these? My question is, why is their no cascabel to attach arresting ropes to deal with the recoiled of firing the cannon? The Wiard Rifle System must have dealt with recoil by another method.

Now I will keep thinking about this to I read more on the Wiard Rifle System.

So what is puddled wrought iron (semi-steel) and where was the "puddle"?

I think it's from Stones River Battlefield.

 

[TerryB]

At one time they had a Wiard gun at Stones River that had been dismounted to look like it was disabled. For some reason they changed that a few years back. I think they have at least two in front of the visitor's center.

 

[Mike Serpa]

Puddling is when iron ore is put into a molten state without the ore actually coming in contact with the fuel (only the combustion gases).
Replicas of the Wiard Rifle are made by at least one manufacturer.
Wiard Rifles came in 6 & 12 pounders and besides not having a casabel, they had a rather peculiar carriage, unusual sights and the ability to be elevated much higher than a normal piece. Photo LoCView attachment 305186

The LOC identifies the man as Gen. Daniel E. Sickles.

 

[CivilWarTalk]

I think that aside from not having any sights installed, that appears to be the correct shape barrel for that piece.

I've seen one of these guns before and I think there are some sockets for the rear sight to fit into behind the vent hole. Looking at the glare in the photo, I don't see that.

If this gun is mounted on the battlefield the sockets may be filled, or the barrel could be upside-down... or it's a repro and they didn't bother with that detail.

 

[TomP]

Any thoughts on the puddled wrought iron (semi-steel) rifle?
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The Wiard in this image is NOT a replica. This photo was taken several years ago at Shiloh. This particular 3.67 inch (12 pounder) rifle used to stand in front of the National Cemetery gates but it has since been moved to a new location. Shiloh has six wiards of this size as well as eight of the 2.6 inch (6 pounder) rifles. Over the last two years the park has purchased a number of replica Wiard carriages to display the tubes. These carriages have the unique teardrop-shaped cheeks as well as the wheels which were designed to be repaired in the field instead of replaced.

 

[Jobe Holiday]

In the photo posted by redbob, from the LoC, is that a fixed position Signal Mortar on the right side of the photo? Any thoughts from our Artillery experts?
J.

 

[Lampasas Bill]

This mortar was discussed an a previous thread. It is a war trophy, a French mortar from the French and Indian War. For lack of a carriage, it is buried in the ground at the U. S. arsenal in Washington D.C.

 

[Patrick H]

I've checked back in from time to time, and I admit I haven't studiously read every single post. Do we have an explanation of how the cannon was ignited? If so, I've missed it. Maybe it was my bad.

 

[TomP]

Do we have an explanation of how the cannon was ignited?

It employed a standard friction primer.