Interesting relations

[Michigan Black Hat]

I'm working on my masters thesis and just found out I'm related to a semi famous confederate officer. This conflict is far too interesting. It really was brother versus brother.

 

[Drew]

OK, so are you going to tell us who, or leave us non contenta?

It is far too interesting though, I'll grant you that. Cheers.

 

[leftyhunter]

I'm working on my masters thesis and just found out I'm related to a semi famous confederate officer. This conflict is far too interesting. It really was brother versus brother.

True that! The two examples that I can think of off the top are the Crinteon (sp?) brothers from Ky who where brothers and generals on opposite sides. I am sure someone can correct my spelling. Sam Hilderbrand the infamous CSA bushwacker had a younger brother who was a Union infantry men. How would you like it if your sister was literally sleeping with the most hated man in America? Well for the three brothers who where CSA officers and Mary Todd Lincoln was their sister that's the position they where in at least has far has most Southerners where concerned. Mary's brothers if I recall right all died for the cause which did not help Mary's state of well being. There was also sisters vs brothers such has Gen. George Thomas who's two sisters denounced him . I am sure there are plenty more examples.
Leftyhunter

 

[ole]

Crittenden. And yes, there was quite a bit of that.

Mary Lincoln got a lot of flak because her brothers and cousins were Confederates. Pemberton was a Northerner fighting for the Confederacy. Thomas was a Virginian fighting for the Union, for which his sisters disowned him. Anderson (Sumter) was a slave-owner loyal to the Federals.

And these don't reach down to the father who shot his son in battle. Or the cousins who fought on opposite sides. Or brothers.

While these are important stories, they are only a part of the tragedy of war.

 

[JPK Huson 1863]

OK, so are you going to tell us who, or leave us non contenta?

It is far too interesting though, I'll grant you that. Cheers.

That's what I thought! Hope he tells us, it's going to begin keeping me awake.

You know, I'm finding Elizabeth Keckley's book a little bizarre. She writes about Mary Lincoln receiving word of her brother's death in battle- we know ( please overlook lack of sources? ) she was tormented by the deaths in her family during the war. For some reason Elizabeth claims to remember verbatim Mary's words on hearing of her Confederate brother's death is battle and said she barely blinked. SO odd of Keckley to have written this, one of several questionable items in the book. ( She has a habit of verbatim conversations, tough to achieve so many years later ) One of the things which to me shows Mary was not mentally ill was her strong sense of loyalty- she maintained her family connections despite every encouragement ( the entire city of Washington ) to drop them. Brother against Brother indeed, her name came up because she's one of the sterling examples.

Is it too nosy to ask the subject of your thesis, Black Hat?

 

[Patrick H]

Our poster might be pretty busy working on that thesis, but I hope he or she will get back to us. I'm curious, too.

 

[kholland]

Our poster might be pretty busy working on that thesis, but I hope he or she will get back to us. I'm curious, too.

He did leave us hanging, didn't he?

 

[Northern Light]

Gen. Lee had a sister Anne, who lived in Baltimore and was strongly Union,

 

[leftyhunter]

Gen. Lee had a sister Anne, who lived in Baltimore and was strongly Union,

Which reminds me that Lee had a nephew that was a Union officer which reminds me that Gen .McCllean had a nephew on Lees staff ( I think it was a nephew Gen.Porter mentions him in his memoirs) small world.
Leftyhunter

 

[Michigan Black Hat]

Sorry for the delay y'all, I honestly didn't think anyone would care lol, but to end the the suspense, it's Lewis Armistead. Our English ancestry is intertwined, and it appears we are cousins. Pretty cool stuff this ancestry research. I'll post more when I know more!

 

[Michigan Black Hat]

That's what I thought! Hope he tells us, it's going to begin keeping me awake.

You know, I'm finding Elizabeth Keckley's book a little bizarre. She writes about Mary Lincoln receiving word of her brother's death in battle- we know ( please overlook lack of sources? ) she was tormented by the deaths in her family during the war. For some reason Elizabeth claims to remember verbatim Mary's words on hearing of her Confederate brother's death is battle and said she barely blinked. SO odd of Keckley to have written this, one of several questionable items in the book. ( She has a habit of verbatim conversations, tough to achieve so many years later ) One of the things which to me shows Mary was not mentally ill was her strong sense of loyalty- she maintained her family connections despite every encouragement ( the entire city of Washington ) to drop them. Brother against Brother indeed, her name came up because she's one of the sterling examples.

Is it too nosy to ask the subject of your thesis, Black Hat?

Not at all!! "Familial Relationships on Opposing Sides" is the title, essentially my hypothesis (which is admittedly impossible to prove), is that in every major war all participants have fought against their own ancestors. I'm Pleasantly surprised by what I have found so far, aside from permissible deviations, e.g., native Americans, much of my research has trended toward proving my thoughts!!

 

[Northern Light]

Sorry for the delay y'all, I honestly didn't think anyone would care lol, but to end the the suspense, it's Lewis Armistead. Our English ancestry is intertwined, and it appears we are cousins. Pretty cool stuff this ancestry research. I'll post more when I know more!

Oh, lucky you! He's one of my favourites.

 

[E_just_E]

Sorry for the delay y'all, I honestly didn't think anyone would care lol, but to end the the suspense, it's Lewis Armistead. Our English ancestry is intertwined, and it appears we are cousins. Pretty cool stuff this ancestry research. I'll post more when I know more!

I'd say that Lewis Armistead is more than semi-famous

 

[kholland]

Sorry for the delay y'all, I honestly didn't think anyone would care lol, but to end the the suspense, it's Lewis Armistead. Our English ancestry is intertwined, and it appears we are cousins. Pretty cool stuff this ancestry research. I'll post more when I know more!

And of course Armistead' s uncle George was commander of Fort McHenry when the British bombarded it during the War of 1812. Another interesting family relationship.

 

[Michigan Black Hat]

And of course Armistead' s uncle George was commander of Fort McHenry when the British bombarded it during the War of 1812. Another interesting family relationship.

Regardless of how far the relationship is, I shall henceforward refer to Armistead as "Uncle Lo"

 

[southern blue]

Abraham Lincoln had cousins in the Shenandoah Valley who were Confederates. One of them was apparently a leader of a Confederate leaning 'bushwhacker' gang. Another cousin also named Abraham Lincoln served in the Confederate Army.

 

[Drew]

One of the things which to me shows Mary was not mentally ill was her strong sense of loyalty- she maintained her family connections despite every encouragement ( the entire city of Washington ) to drop them.

I agree with you on this. Many of us are a little bit nutty from time to time. That doesn't mean we're "mentally ill."

 

[JPK Huson 1863]

Armistead seems to be one of the men who is respected no matter which ' side ' one adheres to, as silly as it is, having a 'side' 150 years later. There are a few, right? There's a thread- I just don't know enough to get into the subject as well as it would deserve.

 

[JPK Huson 1863]

I agree with you on this. Many of us are a little bit nutty from time to time. That doesn't mean we're "mentally ill."

That's awfully true- think we can draw some pretty scary comparisons with Mary Lincoln, and sad ones. She behaved poorly, attracted enemies through various agendas apart from that, poof- she's mentally ill. Too easy. Honestly could happen anywhere, to anyone. I'm sure does. Well, I know it does, have seen it.

 

[Rebforever]

The place where he died on the Spangler Farm. Circa 2008.