I have a question

[LafayetteCountyDigger]

So probably y'all know bannerman acquired the original mold for a confederate buckle and sold them in the early 1900s. What happens if someone is metal detecting and finds one of theses? Will it be indistinguishable from a real buckle?

 

[Joe Whitworth]

I believe so, the Bannerman plates seem to have very stout hooks, the weak spot on most CSA plates. I have one reputed to be a Bannerman's like Harry Ridgeway pictured.

 

[Woods-walker]

So probably y'all know bannerman acquired the original mold for a confederate buckle and sold them in the early 1900s. What happens if someone is metal detecting and finds one of theses? Will it be indistinguishable from a real buckle?

Slim chance but if it were made to original specs likely not distinguishable.
Some of the newer reproduction items are very hard to tell. I dug a repo Virginia button in a Union campsite that I didn't realize was a fake until a year after digging it.

 

[LafayetteCountyDigger]

Slim chance but if it were made to original specs likely not distinguishable.
Some of the newer reproduction items are very hard to tell. I dug a repo Virginia button in a Union campsite that I didn't realize was a fake until a year after digging it.

Sounds interesting can you post a pic of it

 

[UCVRelics]

So probably y'all know bannerman acquired the original mold for a confederate buckle and sold them in the early 1900s. What happens if someone is metal detecting and finds one of theses? Will it be indistinguishable from a real buckle?

The odds of that happening are very slim but you can tell the deference. Bannerman had the Atlanta style plate molds. Below is a CSA Bannerman plate in the original shipping box in my collection and an Atlanta style CSA plate I dug. When the originals were made the hooks stuck straight up and were bent down before it cooled which left a stress mark on the front of the plate. If you don't see these stress marks leave it alone.

 

[Ole Miss]

The Oracle has spoken! Charlie you know who to go to for your questions regarding Civil War relics!
Regards
David

 

[LafayetteCountyDigger]

The odds of that happening are very slim but you can tell the deference. Bannerman had the Atlanta style plate molds. Below is a CSA Bannerman plate in the original shipping box in my collection and an Atlanta style CSA plate I dug. When the originals were made the hooks stuck straight up and were bent down before it cooled which left a stress mark on the front of the plate. If you don't see these stress marks leave it alone.View attachment 436076View attachment 436077View attachment 436078View attachment 436079View attachment 436080
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Thanks for clearing that up it's was just a random thought

 

[Joe Whitworth]

Sounds interesting can you post a pic of it

Here's my "Bannerman" plate. FWIW the person I acquired it from told me they were cast from railroad brass bearing journals.

 

[NH Civil War Gal]

Here's my "Bannerman" plate. FWIW the person I acquired it from told me they were cast from railroad brass bearing journals.
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Why don't I see stress marks on the front of this Bannerman plate?

 

[UCVRelics]

Why don't I see stress marks on the front of this Bannerman plate?

They were not cast the same way. BTW Bannerman had plenty of other brass to cast these.

 

[Michael W.]

They were not cast the same way. BTW Bannerman had plenty of other brass to cast these.

I wonder how many of those Atlanta plates Bannerman made. And how many are still floating around. Sometime I'd like to hear how you acquired that plate still in the box...

 

[NH Civil War Gal]

They were not cast the same way. BTW Bannerman had plenty of other brass to cast these.

Can you explain the difference in casting techniques and what else to look for? Did the brass vary in quality too?

 

[Package4]

I wonder how many of those Atlanta plates Bannerman made. And how many are still floating around. Sometime I'd like to hear how you acquired that plate still in the box...

@Lanyard Puller

 

[UCVRelics]

I wonder how many of those Atlanta plates Bannerman made. And how many are still floating around. Sometime I'd like to hear how you acquired that plate still in the box...

I did a little horse trading with LP

 

[Lanyard Puller]

And now it's about time I "own" it again....maybe....

 

[redbob]

And now it's about time I "own" it again....maybe....

Use extreme caution, he is more surly and difficult than ever-small children and animals run from him.

 

[UCVRelics]

Use extreme caution, he is more surly and difficult than ever-small children and animals run from him.

Bob is spot on as having just buried my Dad, The torch has been past as the student has become the Master and has moved from being in the top 5% of all A Holes to the top 2%.

Gonna miss you Dad.