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[Mcr128773]

What some may refer to as dog or ID tags, generally were sutler purchased.. or self made... Most that appear to be home made typically will use an old coin.. however majority are usually found hand engraved... Sutler wares are frequently found to be metal stamped... using individual character dies.... Most will also have their respective unit/regiment included on the tag...... However this relic appears that the metal stamp in question was one single piece die... which had the full name on it... These types of stamps are more commonly found associated with machinists, merchants, and other venders whereas they may have desire or need to mark their manufactured goods... So already had such a die stamp... I have seen other coins marked similar to this, that were used as luggage tags.. or hang on a watch fob....

Interesting relic.... absolutely... Can it be contributed to a civil war soldier... would be very difficult... Most likely a personal item of a citizen that might have been from Petersburg area.. or could just as easily been passing through the area... Not uncommon especially around the older historical communities to find various items that span a very wide time range in the same area...

Cant see the items in your image but so well but appears you may have two period Spencer bullets on the far left.. the others in that row appear to be modern era... what appears to be an intact 32 short... and some 22 short shell casings.... Some indian head pennies.. cant tell what the others are..

 

[Mcr128773]

Yes the bullets have two rings on them. There is a 1891 seated dime, 3 1800's Indian head pennies, 3 tokens, a 100 year old boys out medal and the Reale. The smaller bullets have a U on the bottom of them. The others say Smith and Wesson. I think they are all civil war from the research I did. I could be wrong though

 

[Frederick14Va]

The item in the bottom left is a Good Luck token issued by a shoe company that dates around 1916-1950 or so...many different versions of that one..... other merchant tokens... the couple of Indian head coins.... The "U" stands for Union Metallic Cartridge Company.. they are modern era... as well as the S&W cartridge...

 

[Mcr128773]

The item in the bottom left is a Good Luck token issued by a shoe company that dates around 1916-1950 or so...many different versions of that one..... other merchant tokens... the couple of Indian head coins.... The "U" stands for Union Metallic Cartridge Company.. they are modern era... as well as the S&W cartridge...

It says 1910 on the Boy Scout medal

 

[Frederick14Va]

It says 1910 on the Boy Scout medal

that's the date that will be on all of them... they were first issued around 1916...

different version of them exist... some with Boy Scout Reference... others without...

 

[Frederick14Va]

Do you have pic of the back side of the 5 cent token ?

 

[Mcr128773]

Do you have pic of the back side of the 5 cent token ?

It says the same thing just five cents. All the tokens I found together. The other two are from a Fireworks company that was in Petersburg but burned down in the late 1800's

 

[Frederick14Va]

Ok that would probably be the Romaine Bro's fireworks factory in Petersburg... I had a relative that was killed in the initial explosion there in 1894....

 

[Mcr128773]

Ok that would probably be the Romaine Bro's fireworks factory in Petersburg... I had a relative that was killed in the initial explosion there in 1894....

Yup that's exactly what they are there's two of them. My father is from Petersburg and we have a historical building with our name on it that survived the war there is a plaque on it that says it was hit by artillery fire. The building is in the Lincoln Movie. My great great grandfather fought in the civil war and survived his picture is in the siege museum in Petersburg

 

[Mcr128773]

Here is the building

 

[Mcr128773]

The sign that says it was hit

 

[Mcr128773]

The street it's on

 

[Mcr128773]

My great great grandfather. He has the short white beard he is in the center of the picture

 

[Frederick14Va]

The sign that says it was hit

Yes Chris Calkins.. former Park Ranger at Petersburg NPS initiated and created the program for these a couple years ago..

 

[Frederick14Va]

My great great grandfather. He has the short white beard he is in the center of the picture

What unit was your ancestor in ?

 

[Mcr128773]

What unit was your ancestor in ?

I will find out and let you know

 

[Mcr128773]

What unit was your ancestor in ?

 

[Frederick14Va]

12th Va; Co.A... "Petersburg City Guards"

There are reenactment units in the area that portray both Co.B and Co.C, which were also from Petersburg environs...

 

[Mcr128773]

12th Va; Co.A... "Petersburg City Guards"

There are reenactment units in the area that portray both Co.B and Co.C, which were also from Petersburg environs...

I visited his grave he is buried Petersburg next to Blanford Cemetary

 

[Gettysburg Echos]

So there's no way this could be a dog tag of a soldier that fought in the war? There was a John Bell Hood who would of been in the area I was at

Well neither side issued "dog tags" The Sutlers Using a small machine Could stamp their name into metal discs made of brass or lead, the sutlers created the first "dog tags" used by soldiers fighting on American soil. Very few of these identification tags for Confederate soldiers have been found. The sutlers' primary market were Union soldiers who typically possessed the resources to purchase such ID tags. The hole at the top of the piece leads me to believe it was either worn as a good luck piece or carried on a string with other coins.