Gettysburg

[cash]

Old guy--it might be.

He's an older guy.

 

[Littlestown]

Old guy--it might be.

 

[E_just_E]

Thanks very much. I'm a Yankee now (frigid Minnesota) but I WAS a Confederate--too many pieces of the puzzle fit together to ignore it,

Welcome from PA!

I do believe your story. Check this one out too. One thing: I don't think that any Minnesotans would self-identify as Yankees these days

 

[chellers]

Thanks for telling your story. Welcome from East Texas.

 

[rhettbutler1865]

As long as I'm here...I collect and have all but 4 of Francis Barnum's Civil War Chilmarks. He has become a good friend in the last two years--anyone out there who has CSS Alabama to sell? I'd pay well for it.

He's an older guy.

That sure looks like him..he'd go into a sort of amusing trance, having memorized his material!

 

[rhettbutler1865]

Welcome from PA!

I do believe your story. Check this one out too. One thing: I don't think that any Minnesotans would self-identify as Yankees these days

You're right. And I can't help but be a little bit proud of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg.

 

[Littlestown]

That sure looks like him..he'd go into a sort of amusing trance, having memorized his material!

Well, if John Fuss was your guide, after 23+ years and over 15,000 tours as a LBG at Gettysburg, he definitely knows "his material".

 

[rhettbutler1865]

Well, if John Fuss was your guide, after 23+ years and over 15,000 tours as a LBG at Gettysburg, he definitely knows "his material".

He did clarify for me why Lee attacked on the third day, controversial as it has been.. He was a nice older gentleman.

 

[E_just_E]

He did clarify for me why Lee attacked on the third day, controversial as it has been.. He was a nice older gentleman.

I'd love to know his explanation for that, if you don't mind sharing

 

[rhettbutler1865]

I'd love to know his explanation for that, if you don't mind sharing

He told me Lee HAD to attack, as the South was winning the battle the first 2 days. If he had NOT ordered Pickett's Charge, he "would have been called a coward" by the Confederates, something "he could not have lived with."

 

[E_just_E]

He told me Lee HAD to attack, as the South was winning the battle the first 2 days. If he had NOT ordered Pickett's Charge, he "would have been called a coward" by the Confederates, something "he could not have lived with."

Interesting, because the Confederates were not "winning the battle" after day 2. After day one, yes.

 

[ole]

He told me Lee HAD to attack, as the South was winning the battle the first 2 days. If he had NOT ordered Pickett's Charge, he "would have been called a coward" by the Confederates, something "he could not have lived with."

Doubt that Lee was worried about what people would think of him.

I believe one reason is that had sat at Gettysburg for two days and simply had to move somewhere to feed his army. Another reasonable assumption is that he had to put the blue-bellies back on their heels so he could get back to Virginia without an organized pursuit.

 

[lelliott19]

Hi-It was Cobbs Legion. And the guide giggled when i told him on Little Round Top that I was in a Georgia cavalry regiment. He said there were no Georgia cavalry at Gettysburg--I insisted there was, and I was in it. That's why he got spooked when I told him at the marker "This is where I was shot."

Cicero C Brooks? Nathan S Pugh? Thomas W Camack? William W McDaniel? P M B Young? John C Almand? Benjamin C Yancey? Thomas W Salter?

Do any of these names mean anything to you @rhettbutler1865 ?????

 

[Nathanb1]

Welcome, and find us again.....

 

[Nathanb1]

And I'm moving this to the New Recruit forum so it won't be lost.

 

[Nathanb1]

Okay, so rhett's already there....so I'm moving this to the Hauntings forum.

 

[rhettbutler1865]

Interesting, because the Confederates were not "winning the battle" after day 2. After day one, yes.

I wondered about that statement myself--I'm only telling you what he told me. And HE should be the expert, right?

 

[lelliott19]

Excerpted from
Sketch of Cobb Legion Cavalry
And Some Incidents and Scenes Remembered.
BY WILEY C. HOWARD, OF COMPANY C.
Prepared and Read under appointment of Atlanta Camp 159, U. C. V., August 19, 1901.
"the vicinity of Gettysburg, near a place called Hunterstown, I think, our command had a thrilling experience and while charging a body of cavalry down a lane leading by a barn, ran into an ambuscade of men posted in the barn who dealt death and destruction upon us. Within five minutes some four or five officers were killed and wounded and about fifteen men were slain or wounded. Col. DeLoney leading the charge on his prancing bay Marion was unhorsed, his charger being shot, fell upon him so that with great difficultty he extricated himself from his prostrate position. Our men had passed him meantime, driving and routing the force in front, when three Yankees seeing his almost helpless position and that he was an officer of note, dashed upon him to subdue, capture him or kill him, shooting and cutting him from their horses. But this superb fighter, with his Hugunot blood boiling, raised himself on one knee and with his dexterous and wiry arm fenced and parried their blows, Charley Harris who was helping him, being wounded, until Bugler H. E. Jackson of Company C, Cobb Legion, who was coming up from the rear, spurred his horse to the fray and to DeLoney's aid, fencing with these darring assailants, at last by a dexterous movement successfully thrust one man through the side, the others escaping with saber wounds from DeLoney's shimmering blade as he rose to his feet. Jackson's bugle, coat and shirt were cut through with saber blows and his sword, which I brought home for him from the surrender at Greensboro, N. C., has four or five distinct gashes along its edge made there by these valiant foes in that desperate rencounter. Jackson, now living near Bogart, Ga., still has this treasured blade and exhibited it to us at the Cobb Legion re-union held at Hoke Smith's at the time of our general re-union here. DeLoney that night sent for Jackson and publicly thanked him for his timely and courageous defense, complimenting him highly, which he will prize to the day of his death." http://docsouth.unc.edu/fpn/howard/howard.html

Also see: Reports of Brig. Gen. Wade Hampton, C. S. Army, commanding brigade, with congratulatory orders JUNE 3-AUGUST 1, 1863.--The Gettysburg Campaign http://www.civilwarhome.com/hamptongettysburgor.html

"In an account put out by "Civil War Times" in February of 1971, "The Affair at Hunterstown", by Colonel Wilbur S. Nye, it mentions that 32 of Deloney's men (Cobb's Legion Cavalry) were killed in Hunterstown, but the names of the fallen soldiers were not known. Recently, we have received a "report" that there may still be 13 Confederate soldiers buried here in Hunterstown." http://www.hunterstown1863.com/2007.07.01_arch.html

 

[Allie]

Great quote--and thanks for the welcome. True story...I'm now finally attempting to find my ancestors who were at Gettysburg in particular, and the war in general. But there's lost papers and such, so I can't find names--all grandparents and my parents are deceased...I don't know if we are supposed to say our last names here-are we?

A lot of people here do go by their real-life names. Some don't. Whatever feels comfortable to you.

The thing to remember about internet security is that giving out your details on the internet is just like giving them out face-to-face - hundreds of people in your day-to-day life know your name, where you live, etc. - except that on the internet you are giving information to potentially millions of people instead of hundreds or thousands, which greatly increases the chances that some of those people might be criminals, and makes it much harder to figure out which one did it if a crime occurs. As long as you don't post details which are likely to attract crime, you are probably pretty safe. That includes the sort of information banks ask as security questions - so your full name, birthday, what your mother's maiden name was, and where you were born (all the sort of things that might come up in casual conversation on a friendly forum) are not great things to talk about online.

The rule on ancestry.com is that the details of living people are concealed. Going by that, if you were to list the names of your four grandparents, along with dates and places of birth and death (estimates are okay) people here could help you with genealogy without knowing specifically who you are. Or you can post asking for help on the ancestry forum and private message that information to only a few people.

 

[rhettbutler1865]

Excerpted from
Sketch of Cobb Legion Cavalry
And Some Incidents and Scenes Remembered.
BY WILEY C. HOWARD, OF COMPANY C.
Prepared and Read under appointment of Atlanta Camp 159, U. C. V., August 19, 1901.
"the vicinity of Gettysburg, near a place called Hunterstown, I think, our command had a thrilling experience and while charging a body of cavalry down a lane leading by a barn, ran into an ambuscade of men posted in the barn who dealt death and destruction upon us. Within five minutes some four or five officers were killed and wounded and about fifteen men were slain or wounded. Col. DeLoney leading the charge on his prancing bay Marion was unhorsed, his charger being shot, fell upon him so that with great difficultty he extricated himself from his prostrate position. Our men had passed him meantime, driving and routing the force in front, when three Yankees seeing his almost helpless position and that he was an officer of note, dashed upon him to subdue, capture him or kill him, shooting and cutting him from their horses. But this superb fighter, with his Hugunot blood boiling, raised himself on one knee and with his dexterous and wiry arm fenced and parried their blows, Charley Harris who was helping him, being wounded, until Bugler H. E. Jackson of Company C, Cobb Legion, who was coming up from the rear, spurred his horse to the fray and to DeLoney's aid, fencing with these darring assailants, at last by a dexterous movement successfully thrust one man through the side, the others escaping with saber wounds from DeLoney's shimmering blade as he rose to his feet. Jackson's bugle, coat and shirt were cut through with saber blows and his sword, which I brought home for him from the surrender at Greensboro, N. C., has four or five distinct gashes along its edge made there by these valiant foes in that desperate rencounter. Jackson, now living near Bogart, Ga., still has this treasured blade and exhibited it to us at the Cobb Legion re-union held at Hoke Smith's at the time of our general re-union here. DeLoney that night sent for Jackson and publicly thanked him for his timely and courageous defense, complimenting him highly, which he will prize to the day of his death." http://docsouth.unc.edu/fpn/howard/howard.html

Also see: Reports of Brig. Gen. Wade Hampton, C. S. Army, commanding brigade, with congratulatory orders JUNE 3-AUGUST 1, 1863.--The Gettysburg Campaign http://www.civilwarhome.com/hamptongettysburgor.html

"In an account put out by "Civil War Times" in February of 1971, "The Affair at Hunterstown", by Colonel Wilbur S. Nye, it mentions that 32 of Deloney's men (Cobb's Legion Cavalry) were killed in Hunterstown, but the names of the fallen soldiers were not known. Recently, we have received a "report" that there may still be 13 Confederate soldiers buried here in Hunterstown." http://www.hunterstown1863.com/2007.07.01_arch.html

Excerpted from
Sketch of Cobb Legion Cavalry
And Some Incidents and Scenes Remembered.
BY WILEY C. HOWARD, OF COMPANY C.
Prepared and Read under appointment of Atlanta Camp 159, U. C. V., August 19, 1901.
"the vicinity of Gettysburg, near a place called Hunterstown, I think, our command had a thrilling experience and while charging a body of cavalry down a lane leading by a barn, ran into an ambuscade of men posted in the barn who dealt death and destruction upon us. Within five minutes some four or five officers were killed and wounded and about fifteen men were slain or wounded. Col. DeLoney leading the charge on his prancing bay Marion was unhorsed, his charger being shot, fell upon him so that with great difficultty he extricated himself from his prostrate position. Our men had passed him meantime, driving and routing the force in front, when three Yankees seeing his almost helpless position and that he was an officer of note, dashed upon him to subdue, capture him or kill him, shooting and cutting him from their horses. But this superb fighter, with his Hugunot blood boiling, raised himself on one knee and with his dexterous and wiry arm fenced and parried their blows, Charley Harris who was helping him, being wounded, until Bugler H. E. Jackson of Company C, Cobb Legion, who was coming up from the rear, spurred his horse to the fray and to DeLoney's aid, fencing with these darring assailants, at last by a dexterous movement successfully thrust one man through the side, the others escaping with saber wounds from DeLoney's shimmering blade as he rose to his feet. Jackson's bugle, coat and shirt were cut through with saber blows and his sword, which I brought home for him from the surrender at Greensboro, N. C., has four or five distinct gashes along its edge made there by these valiant foes in that desperate rencounter. Jackson, now living near Bogart, Ga., still has this treasured blade and exhibited it to us at the Cobb Legion re-union held at Hoke Smith's at the time of our general re-union here. DeLoney that night sent for Jackson and publicly thanked him for his timely and courageous defense, complimenting him highly, which he will prize to the day of his death." http://docsouth.unc.edu/fpn/howard/howard.html

Also see: Reports of Brig. Gen. Wade Hampton, C. S. Army, commanding brigade, with congratulatory orders JUNE 3-AUGUST 1, 1863.--The Gettysburg Campaign http://www.civilwarhome.com/hamptongettysburgor.html

"In an account put out by "Civil War Times" in February of 1971, "The Affair at Hunterstown", by Colonel Wilbur S. Nye, it mentions that 32 of Deloney's men (Cobb's Legion Cavalry) were killed in Hunterstown, but the names of the fallen soldiers were not known. Recently, we have received a "report" that there may still be 13 Confederate soldiers buried here in Hunterstown." http://www.hunterstown1863.com/2007.07.01_arch.html

Excerpted from
Sketch of Cobb Legion Cavalry
And Some Incidents and Scenes Remembered.
BY WILEY C. HOWARD, OF COMPANY C.
Prepared and Read under appointment of Atlanta Camp 159, U. C. V., August 19, 1901.
"the vicinity of Gettysburg, near a place called Hunterstown, I think, our command had a thrilling experience and while charging a body of cavalry down a lane leading by a barn, ran into an ambuscade of men posted in the barn who dealt death and destruction upon us. Within five minutes some four or five officers were killed and wounded and about fifteen men were slain or wounded. Col. DeLoney leading the charge on his prancing bay Marion was unhorsed, his charger being shot, fell upon him so that with great difficultty he extricated himself from his prostrate position. Our men had passed him meantime, driving and routing the force in front, when three Yankees seeing his almost helpless position and that he was an officer of note, dashed upon him to subdue, capture him or kill him, shooting and cutting him from their horses. But this superb fighter, with his Hugunot blood boiling, raised himself on one knee and with his dexterous and wiry arm fenced and parried their blows, Charley Harris who was helping him, being wounded, until Bugler H. E. Jackson of Company C, Cobb Legion, who was coming up from the rear, spurred his horse to the fray and to DeLoney's aid, fencing with these darring assailants, at last by a dexterous movement successfully thrust one man through the side, the others escaping with saber wounds from DeLoney's shimmering blade as he rose to his feet. Jackson's bugle, coat and shirt were cut through with saber blows and his sword, which I brought home for him from the surrender at Greensboro, N. C., has four or five distinct gashes along its edge made there by these valiant foes in that desperate rencounter. Jackson, now living near Bogart, Ga., still has this treasured blade and exhibited it to us at the Cobb Legion re-union held at Hoke Smith's at the time of our general re-union here. DeLoney that night sent for Jackson and publicly thanked him for his timely and courageous defense, complimenting him highly, which he will prize to the day of his death." http://docsouth.unc.edu/fpn/howard/howard.html

Also see: Reports of Brig. Gen. Wade Hampton, C. S. Army, commanding brigade, with congratulatory orders JUNE 3-AUGUST 1, 1863.--The Gettysburg Campaign http://www.civilwarhome.com/hamptongettysburgor.html

"In an account put out by "Civil War Times" in February of 1971, "The Affair at Hunterstown", by Colonel Wilbur S. Nye, it mentions that 32 of Deloney's men (Cobb's Legion Cavalry) were killed in Hunterstown, but the names of the fallen soldiers were not known. Recently, we have received a "report" that there may still be 13 Confederate soldiers buried here in Hunterstown." http://www.hunterstown1863.com/2007.07.01_arch.html

Thank you so much for the excerpt--I believe that barn is still there.

Excerpted from
Sketch of Cobb Legion Cavalry
And Some Incidents and Scenes Remembered.
BY WILEY C. HOWARD, OF COMPANY C.
Prepared and Read under appointment of Atlanta Camp 159, U. C. V., August 19, 1901.
"the vicinity of Gettysburg, near a place called Hunterstown, I think, our command had a thrilling experience and while charging a body of cavalry down a lane leading by a barn, ran into an ambuscade of men posted in the barn who dealt death and destruction upon us. Within five minutes some four or five officers were killed and wounded and about fifteen men were slain or wounded. Col. DeLoney leading the charge on his prancing bay Marion was unhorsed, his charger being shot, fell upon him so that with great difficultty he extricated himself from his prostrate position. Our men had passed him meantime, driving and routing the force in front, when three Yankees seeing his almost helpless position and that he was an officer of note, dashed upon him to subdue, capture him or kill him, shooting and cutting him from their horses. But this superb fighter, with his Hugunot blood boiling, raised himself on one knee and with his dexterous and wiry arm fenced and parried their blows, Charley Harris who was helping him, being wounded, until Bugler H. E. Jackson of Company C, Cobb Legion, who was coming up from the rear, spurred his horse to the fray and to DeLoney's aid, fencing with these darring assailants, at last by a dexterous movement successfully thrust one man through the side, the others escaping with saber wounds from DeLoney's shimmering blade as he rose to his feet. Jackson's bugle, coat and shirt were cut through with saber blows and his sword, which I brought home for him from the surrender at Greensboro, N. C., has four or five distinct gashes along its edge made there by these valiant foes in that desperate rencounter. Jackson, now living near Bogart, Ga., still has this treasured blade and exhibited it to us at the Cobb Legion re-union held at Hoke Smith's at the time of our general re-union here. DeLoney that night sent for Jackson and publicly thanked him for his timely and courageous defense, complimenting him highly, which he will prize to the day of his death." http://docsouth.unc.edu/fpn/howard/howard.html

Also see: Reports of Brig. Gen. Wade Hampton, C. S. Army, commanding brigade, with congratulatory orders JUNE 3-AUGUST 1, 1863.--The Gettysburg Campaign http://www.civilwarhome.com/hamptongettysburgor.html

"In an account put out by "Civil War Times" in February of 1971, "The Affair at Hunterstown", by Colonel Wilbur S. Nye, it mentions that 32 of Deloney's men (Cobb's Legion Cavalry) were killed in Hunterstown, but the names of the fallen soldiers were not known. Recently, we have received a "report" that there may still be 13 Confederate soldiers buried here in Hunterstown." http://www.hunterstown1863.com/2007.07.01_arch.html

Thank you so much for that account-I believe that barn is still there, near a row of cannons opposite of where I felt the "shivers" when I saw the two groves of trees with the open field between them. There was fighting between Custer and men under Wade Hampton (Cobb's Legion). In my dream, I am riding towards the small grove of trees where the Yankees were charging out of. Side note; My mother was born on and died the same days as Custer. Strange coincidence.