England's irish slaves

[B Peach]

http://stephen-hand.blogspot.com/2010/04/englands-irish-slaves-by-robert-e.html

 

[Irish Toaster]

Not our happiest time...

 

[Nathanb1]

As I recall, either the grandparents or great-grandparents of Stonewall Jackson were transported? (Somebody help me--I'm too lazy to go upstairs and hunt for the book!)

 

[Borderruffian]

John Jackson was born in County Londonderry (County Derry) in Coalraine. The Jackson name is from Northumberland in England which would make the Jacksons a set of Plantation Irish or Plants moved there to populate the north of Ireland and give the Crown a loyal base against the native Irish Catholics.

John Jackson the GGF of Stonewall was convicted of a capital crime of larceny while living in London with his future wife Elizabeth Cummins and deported to America aboard the Royal Prison Ship Litchfield in 1749.

 

[Nathanb1]

Thank you. My laziness overcame me. Probably from a lack of fireworks last night.

 

[Borderruffian]

No problem. Wife and kid are in Texas, no fire works here too

 

[IrishBrigade]

Their ancestors may have had it rough but I'd bet a lot of their offspring enjoyed far better lives then if they stayed in their homeland. They may have done them a long term favour.

 

[brass napoleon]

Their ancestors may have had it rough but I'd bet a lot of their offspring enjoyed far better lives then if they stayed in their homeland. They may have done them a long term favour.

Never thought of it that way. I'm one of the offspring myself ( 4th generation - by way of Australia). One of my goals in life is to make it back to Ireland someday and try to track down my family roots. Maybe then I'll find out whether it was a favour or not...

 

[Freddy]

My Father's great grandfather came over in 1857. Not sure about the O'Neil side of the family. Never heard any stories about indentured servants in the family.

 

[IrishBrigade]

Considering Ireland was pretty much ran by the Catholic church up until the 1980's and given the trouble we now find ourselves in with the economic crisis(not far behind Greece) I think those who left no matter what the circumstances definitely had better opportunities, your current President and his family are a prime example.

For those of you interested in Irish lineage they're slowly getting all the various census reports up on the web, link below.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

 

[prroh]

For those of you interested in Irish lineage they're slowly getting all the various census reports up on the web, link below.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

Very Interesting. Found my Grandmother and Father-in-Law. Eamon DeValera is listed as Edward and is an 18 year old student living in Dublin in 1901. His place of birth is listed as County Limerick (Bruree) but was actually NYC.

 

[brass napoleon]

For those of you interested in Irish lineage they're slowly getting all the various census reports up on the web, link below.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

Interesting info. Thanks. Hopefully they'll keep extending the records back to the 19th century too. In the meantime I see my surname is pretty common, but not "over the top".

 

[IrishBrigade]

They're averaging one report every 18 months or so, but the further back they go the harder the documents are to find and scan in.

 

[brass napoleon]

They're averaging one report every 18 months or so, but the further back they go the harder the documents are to find and scan in.

I'm facing this problem at both ends. My GG grandfather, who came over from the Australian penal colonies, worked in a copper mine in the California desert. Some time after his death the town hall burned down and all the records with it. All that's left is his tombstone (and interestingly enough, it's a BIG one). His son, my great-grandfather, ran away from home at 12 and never had contact with the family again.

We've got much of our family tree traced back for centuries, but the line that bears my surname is stuck at a dead end.

 

[Borderruffian]

Check the state archives for documents.