Ebenezer creek

[PartywithArty]

You're making things up again. Stop telling falsehoods. They were refugees.

They certainlty were after Shermans men stranded them.....How can they be refugees when they had a home on the plantations?

 

[cash]

shermans med cut the ropes stranding the slaves...Causing their deaths.. He is to blame

Sherman's troops didn't kill anyone. The blame goes to the person who did the killing. That would be Wheeler's men.

 

[PartywithArty]

So then your position is that confederate soldiers were bloodthirsty savages who routinely murdered unarmed black civilians?

No,my position is Shermans men made false promises of protection,used the slaves as laborers and used them as bullet sponges so they could make a get away.

 

[cash]

yes,the slaves were persuaded to come by Sherman...Many its you that needs to read more..

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're trying to make up your own facts. Sherman never invited the refugees. Stop telling falsehoods.

 

[cash]

Sherman wasnt there? Check this out.. From wikipiedia "The Tragedy of Ebenezer Creek happened on December 9, 1864. General Sherman was already towards the end of his March to the Sea, and was only twenty miles from his final destination of Savannah, Georgia. Slaves followed Sherman's army throughout his march from Atlanta despite the fact that Sherman's army could not support a large following. One of the reasons for this following was the exchange of food for slaves for their servitude with the Union Army, which included cooking and manual labor. Due to the increasing scarcity of food, Sherman urged the freed men to stay behind. Many freed slaves turned around. However, on this particular day, an estimated 670 freed men, women and children were on the march with Sherman's army and were stranded."

Where does it say Sherman was at Ebenezer Creek?

 

[PartywithArty]

Sherman's troops didn't kill anyone. The blame goes to the person who did the killing. That would be Wheeler's men.

Remember sir,Davis cut the ropes...Wheelers men captured more than they killed..

 

[cash]

wich included the pioneers,wich were the slaves...

Stop telling falsehoods about this incident.

 

[cash]

really? Is that your only comeback? And sir,i have a horrible and scarry imagination...I dont make things up..

You are certainly making up things in this thread. Perhaps you should actually read the article you cited at the beginning of this thread.

 

[cash]

excerpt from wikipiedia (speaking about Jefferson C.Davis) "However, it was his actions during the Ebenezer Creek passing and his racist attitude towards freed slaves, that causes his legacy to be clouded in continued controversy. As Sherman's army proceeded on the March to the Sea toward Savannah, Georgia, on December 9, 1864, Davis ordered a pontoon bridge removed before the African-American refugees following his corps could cross the creek. Several hundred were captured by the Confederate cavalry or drowned in the creek, attempting to escape.

Wikipedia is not a credible source for historical information.

 

[PartywithArty]

Stop telling falsehoods about this incident.

whatever you say...Keep believing what you want.. No one has changed your mind yet, so why bother?

 

[cash]

exactly,and Johan Steele thinks Wheelers men were not even a speed bump for Shermans troops,so why didnt they allow the slaves to cross and stand up and fight like real men? You trying to change the point.. Shermans men used the slaves as a speed bump to slow down Wheeler.

I'm changing nothing. You're still making things up. Stop telling falsehoods.

 

[cash]

They certainlty were after Shermans men stranded them.....How can they be refugees when they had a home on the plantations?

Plantations meant slavery. They were refugees from slavery. How is it you don't understand that?

 

[PartywithArty]

I'm changing nothing. You're still making things up. Stop telling falsehoods.

and your in your own little fairy tale world were Union soldiers arnt wrong for anything they do,such as Davis cutting the pontoon ropes, stranding slaves,ordering them to stay behind at gun point...

 

[PartywithArty]

Plantations meant slavery. They were refugees from slavery. How is it you don't understand that?

They were refugees when Davis stranded them..

 

[cash]

No,my position is Shermans men made false promises of protection,

Falsehood. No such promises were made to the refugees.

used the slaves as laborers and used them as bullet sponges so they could make a get away.

Falsehood again. The refugees were not used as laborers.

You claimed that Davis left them to a certain death. That means that you believe confederate soldiers were bloodthirsty savages who routinely murdered unarmed refugees, otherwise there wouldn't have been certain death as you claimed.

 

[cash]

Remember sir,Davis cut the ropes...Wheelers men captured more than they killed..

It was Wheeler's men who did the killing, though.

 

[PartywithArty]

It was Wheeler's men who did the killing, though.

No,It was Wheelers men who killed,captured and returned to their plantations. Davis orderd the slaves to stay behind at gun point, he cause them to drown and be captured,if Davis would have acted a little deffrently,those slaves would have survived to be free men and women!

 

[cash]

and your in your own little fairy tale world were Union soldiers arnt wrong for anything they do,such as Davis cutting the pontoon ropes, stranding slaves,ordering them to stay behind at gun point...

Please show me where I said Union soldiers aren't wrong for anything they do.

Davis cut the ropes. Wheeler's men did the killing.

 

[cash]

They were refugees when Davis stranded them..

You should look up the definition of "refugee" in the dictionary.

 

[PartywithArty]

Please show me where I said Union soldiers aren't wrong for anything they do.

Davis cut the ropes. Wheeler's men did the killing.

If you say so,Sir....