Eagle belt buckle

[LieghleyD]

Hello everyone. Forgive me if I am not doing this right. But I am new here and this is my very first post on the site.
I have found an old belt buckle that from my amateur eyes seems to be real. This is an 1851 nco eagle belt buckle. I believe back then they were called belt plates. I have googled quite a few photos and my analysis is not 100% I will attach photos of the item I have. Can I get some professional insight please. Is it authentic? Reproduction? Value? Where and how to get authentication?

 

[UCVRelics]

Could you post photos of the back?

 

[Cornpone and Molasses]

It is a M1851 Eagle US sword belt plate. Can you post a picture of the back?

 

[redbob]

Welcome to the group from middle Alabama and the back of the plate will tell the tale.

 

[JOHN42768]

Welcome, enjoy. Do you have the keeper with it?

 

[captaindrew]

Welcome from South Florida and the Reenactors Forum

 

[mofederal]

Hello and welcome to the CivilWarTalk from Southeast Missouri.

 

[LieghleyD]

Could you post photos of the back?

 

[LieghleyD]

Hello everyone. Forgive me if I am not doing this right. But I am new here and this is my very first post on the site.
I have found an old belt buckle that from my amateur eyes seems to be real. This is an 1851 nco eagle belt buckle. I believe back then they were called belt plates. I have googled quite a few photos and my analysis is not 100% I will attach photos of the item I have. Can I get some professional insight please. Is it authentic? Reproduction? Value? Where and how to get authentication? View attachment 386632View attachment 386633

Welcome, enjoy. Do you have the keeper with it?

I do not. Just the buckle

 

[LieghleyD]

Welcome to the group from middle Alabama and the back of the plate will tell the tale.

 

[UCVRelics]

It is indeed a model 1851 Sword Plate and with the the wide tongue and the file marks XX tells me its a late war made plate. Nice plate wish you had the keeper.

 

[Cornpone and Molasses]

It is indeed a model 1851 Sword Plate and with the the wide tongue and the file marks XX tells me its a late war made plate. Nice plate wish you had the keeper.

So the file marks indicate when it was made and
a bench number on the keeper is just to match up to the plate correct?

 

[UCVRelics]

So the file marks indicate when it was made and
a bench number on the keeper is just to match up to the plate correct?

If you look the file marks on this one are the bench marks, XV\\ is 17. Some of the early ones had numbers stamped on them to mate the plate to the keeper. The model 1871 which had a wide tongue also had better casting methods and didn't need bench marks.

 

[Cornpone and Molasses]

If you look the file marks on this one are the bench marks, XV\\ is 17. Some of the early ones had numbers stamped on them to mate the plate to the keeper. The model 1871 which had a wide tongue also had better casting methods and didn't need bench marks.

Oh ok. Here is one that I have.

 

[Lubliner]

Welcome from the Railroads and Steam Locomotives Forum. Nice match.
Lubliner.

 

[James N.]

Hello everyone. Forgive me if I am not doing this right. But I am new here and this is my very first post on the site.
I have found an old belt buckle that from my amateur eyes seems to be real. This is an 1851 nco eagle belt buckle. I believe back then they were called belt plates. I have googled quite a few photos and my analysis is not 100% I will attach photos of the item I have. Can I get some professional insight please. Is it authentic? Reproduction? Value? Where and how to get authentication? View attachment 386632View attachment 386633

Welcome to the forums! These are the officer's version of this buckle - enlisted ones had a separately applied silver wreath that looks more impressive in many surviving specimens because the gold (gilt or gilded) finish has been worn away like on yours. Here are some more photos for comparison:

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[Kip124thNY]

Thanks for posting. Welcome to the forum.

 

[NH Civil War Gal]

Welcome from New Hampshire and the Soldier's Tales and Haunting Forum!

 

[JOHN42768]

An"idea of value. http://www.hayesotoupalik.com/images/DSCF7525 [1280x768].JPG

 

[lupaglupa]

Welcome from the Researching Your Civil War Ancestry forum - looks like you did find the right place to post!