Impressions Dying (at a reenactment)

SethJ

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Greetings,

I have only attended one reenactment, and in that one, I saw three main types of dying techniques.


1. The smart, but most common one.
Falling face first on the ground, making sure you ain't going to get too badly burned. I personally failed this my first death and suffered for a while because of it. However, it could have been worse.

2. The farce.
One man (a reb) took a hit, dropped to one knee, threw his fist in the air and declared "Curse you Yankees!" before hitting the ground. I mean, I'm sure somebody said that at some point or another, but this is some side character death type stuff here.

3. The "realistic".
I put quotes ("") because there will never be a 100% accurate death. But these are my personal favorite, and ones I wish I saw more.

That first face up hit I took was studied, disturbing as it is. I had heard it wasn't uncommon for a soldier being hit to simply gasp, and then collapse. So, when I took the hit I grasped my lower stomach, took a step back, before falling straight on my back (and partially on my cartridge box). From there, one of my company mates dragged me (or, tried to. I had to help considering I'm not easy to pull around) about 10 feet away before rebels forced him out.
The rest of the time I layed there (I was the first one down, 8 minutes in to a 30 minute battle), I was cared for by a nurse, "interviewed" by the announcer, and stepped over by rebs until the battles end.

Another man in the second battle (a reb) took a hit and hit the ground hard, face first. He flipped over, and screamed. It was terrifyingly realistic. He started screaming for his mother, and had it not been over-convincing, I would have rolled my eyes at the cliché.



Now, I've heard stories from members of my reenactment company (primarily from my First Sergeant) of different ways they had died, or had seen others die.

He told me of one case when rebel artillery "loaded with grapeshot" took down the entire company near the end of the battle. During that, he said many of them had actually gone Airborne, throwing themselves hard on the ground, and even hitting eachother.

Another story told was of a man who bought a realistic suit to put under his jacket, which showed a ghastly wound to the stomach. After taking a hot and screaming profusely, he tore open his jacket while near the public to show the gore that the suit had entailed.


Through my study of the civil war (when I'm not studying caps and clothing) has enlightened me to many harrowing accounts. Those are where I draw ideas for deaths. And, sometimes I just come up with ideas that would be interesting to try. Here are a few I have considered.



1 . Shot through the eyes.
Based off a story told from the perspective of a NCO/officer who had found a soldier in the aftermath of a battle sitting with his hands in his lap, sitting like a child on the ground. As they went to get the attention of the soldier, he saw that both eyes were shot out, and he was in shock. I do not recall if he survived.
My idea would be using some kind of black facepaint on my eyelids, so when I close me eyes, it would just be dark circles instead of eyes. Probably done sometimes when you're near the audience so they can see the effect clearer.

2 . Mercy kill.
I've read about soldiers being spared or a painful death by being shot or stabbed by a pistol or something of the sort.
Preferably by an officer (because saber/handgun). This could just be a realistic death, followed by either a friendly soldier or a disturbed enemy putting an end to the wounded.

3 . Losing a hand.
We're going Saving Private Ryan style here.
My coat is VERY long. Including the sleeves. Using this to an advantage, one may be able to slip a fake hand in a haversack, and before taking a hit, you quickly grab it, and try to pull off a convincing severing shot, probably from cannon fire. This can either be pulled off real good, or be horrendous. After getting your hand shot off, you'd probably pick it up and scream as you run off the field… or just get shot again.

4 . Bullet in the bible… followed by a bullet to the chest.
Another one that would probably be done close to the audience, where you stick a prop bible/journal/hardtack with a struck bullet in it into your coat. Take a hit and fall t the ground. Quickly stand back up, and pull the prop from your coat, make some kind of excited exclaim, and either continue fighting, or take a hit right after.

5 . "where's my hat?"
One that I have yet to figure out a good way to pull off, but would be interesting to do, is have some kind of rigging to yank a cap off your head after a bullet struck it. Pick it up right after, or get it after the battle.



Every now and then I'll probably throw in another idea, or one that I heard about or witnessed. Any ideas, thoughts, stories, etc. would also be welcome.

I would like to make it clear, I do not want to make fun of what soldiers went through and experienced, but I also want to make it enjoyable to the audience. If you wish to say something against my portrayals that is entirely negative, feel free to direct message me, and don't spread the "love" here.

Best of stuffs,
-Seth
 
Are you speaking by First hand or second hand experience 😂😂

A little bit of both. And... on that score, red food-coloring and molasses might seem like a good idea... but sometimes the ants can come to you...
 
Reenacting is playacting. It never, ever, comes even close to what Civil War combat was actually like. Don't over think it, enjoy yourself.

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Note: Take it from me, explosive squibs are spectacular, but you really don't want to go there.
 
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Reenacting is playacting. It never, ever, comes even close to what actual Civil War combat was actually like. Don't over think it, enjoy yourself.

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Note: Take it from me, explosive squibs are spectacular, but you really don't want to go there.
Did in fact consider Squibs. Then I realise how impractical it would be to have it on the field, and then... one big thing for me, is I don't want to traumatize any kids... more or less.
 
Reenacting is playacting. It never, ever, comes even close to what actual Civil War combat was actually like.
Wholly agree.

Can only view reenactments as benefitting those who engage in these experiences as a satisfying (and perhaps enjoyable) pastime - no problems from that viewpoint.

But reenactments, including the official commemorative ones, go nowhere near to capturing the desperation, drama and destruction that was experienced in these actual historical events. This is without even mentioning the consequential suffering that lingered after such events. (One only needs to read the numerous personal accounts/memoirs of the actual historical participants to begin to appreciate these realities).

Thought the role and purpose of 'reenacting' always needs to be kept within a proper perspective.
 
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Another technique, which I saw at a Revolutionary War reenactment back during the bicentennial - jerk, gasp and collapse onto the guy next to you, who will lower you gently to the ground. In that case, the guy next to him yelled out, "Oh, my God! They SHOT him!" for good measure, just in case you couldn't figure out what they were playing at.

A little cheesy, but I remember it quite vividly coming up on 50 years later. (In that "battle" staged on the grounds of Brockton High School, the Red Coats won and killed all the Yankees, resulting in a robust round of booing from the observers.)
 
I´ve broken a lot of equipment over the years taking ¨good¨ hits. Ripped bayonet scabbards... bent bayonet... crushed cups. So make sure your gear is out of the way before falling. I´ve also taken hits that were ¨too good¨ where people came running over to check if I was actually alright. Walking wounds often suffer the same fate. Kinda kills the moment. Avoid the melodramatic - find a nice spot in the shade.
 
There are always the ones that die early because they don't want to fire and have to clean their muskets. It took about a year or more for many when they die around me to fall on their ammo pouch/cartridge case. Why because I would loot them of their ammo (as would of been done back then). Didn't stop me I just rolled them over. If they protested I'd tell them to shut up your dead. There were events I never brought, made ammo, or used my own ammo because I looted the dead!
At Antietam one year we were formed up in front of a battery of dead Rebs. One of their young crew had farbby boots on no brogans. I yelled out to the Officer if I could fall out and try on the dead Rebs footgear for it was better then my own. He said go ahead. In front of hundreds of laughing Union I stripped his farb boots off then threw them away when they would not fit me!
 
Agree with @7thWisconsin first and foremost don't hurt yourself or your gear or anyone else around you. Over dramatic hits usually get giggles out of the crowd, I don't think that's the reaction you're looking for. You're #1 choice in your OP is the way to go. Keep yourself protected from the sun and the battle going on, particularly if it's still going back and forth. I've seen guys trying to put on a show in between the lines and really put themselves in a dangerous spot. Get down and stay down. Make sure you lay your rifle/musket down easy (unloaded) with the lock plate up, there's absolutely no reason to damage what's now an enormously expensive piece of equipment. Make sure you're cartridge and cap boxes are closed so you don't lose a bunch of ammo. And let your file partner know you're taking a hit so they know you're not having an actual problem, these things do happen on the field.
 
Recently in my second reenactment, we had a hand to hand fight after givin the order to charge. Some mild rifle swinging (safely of course). I took out 2 rebs with my bayonet before the remaining reb line moved in on the 4 of us left alive. We attempted to load our rifles and fire before they mowed us down. I took a round and fell to my face. I then raised myself to my knees and crawled tword the rebel sgt and claimed I was going to take him to hell with me. He rolled his eyes, pulled his saber and, put me down through the heart. That death got a huge reaction from the spectators. I say, don't over act the death but, give the folks a good show. That's what we're here for.
After the battle, we had numerous families in our camp who sought me out to ask questions about weapons and soldier life. I would like to think this was because of my "show" since the day before, there was nobody visiting our camp.
 
Recently in my second reenactment, we had a hand to hand fight after givin the order to charge. Some mild rifle swinging (safely of course). I took out 2 rebs with my bayonet before the remaining reb line moved in on the 4 of us left alive. We attempted to load our rifles and fire before they mowed us down. I took a round and fell to my face. I then raised myself to my knees and crawled tword the rebel sgt and claimed I was going to take him to hell with me. He rolled his eyes, pulled his saber and, put me down through the heart. That death got a huge reaction from the spectators. I say, don't over act the death but, give the folks a good show. That's what we're here for.
After the battle, we had numerous families in our camp who sought me out to ask questions about weapons and soldier life. I would like to think this was because of my "show" since the day before, there was nobody visiting our camp.
Was this a pretty small event? Or are you in Europe? Most mainstream reenacting events of modest size prohibit h2h actions unless pre-approved and carefully scripted.
 
Was this a pretty small event? Or are you in Europe? Most mainstream reenacting events of modest size prohibit h2h actions unless pre-approved and carefully scripted.
Not speaking for Flybox, but I can speak for the WCWA. Hand to Hand as long as it's pre-approved is most definitely allowed. In fact, a brawl broke out at a debate between two reenactors who had pre-planned it.
 
Greetings,

I have only attended one reenactment, and in that one, I saw three main types of dying techniques.


1. The smart, but most common one.
Falling face first on the ground, making sure you ain't going to get too badly burned. I personally failed this my first death and suffered for a while because of it. However, it could have been worse.

2. The farce.
One man (a reb) took a hit, dropped to one knee, threw his fist in the air and declared "Curse you Yankees!" before hitting the ground. I mean, I'm sure somebody said that at some point or another, but this is some side character death type stuff here.

3. The "realistic".
I put quotes ("") because there will never be a 100% accurate death. But these are my personal favorite, and ones I wish I saw more.

That first face up hit I took was studied, disturbing as it is. I had heard it wasn't uncommon for a soldier being hit to simply gasp, and then collapse. So, when I took the hit I grasped my lower stomach, took a step back, before falling straight on my back (and partially on my cartridge box). From there, one of my company mates dragged me (or, tried to. I had to help considering I'm not easy to pull around) about 10 feet away before rebels forced him out.
The rest of the time I layed there (I was the first one down, 8 minutes in to a 30 minute battle), I was cared for by a nurse, "interviewed" by the announcer, and stepped over by rebs until the battles end.

Another man in the second battle (a reb) took a hit and hit the ground hard, face first. He flipped over, and screamed. It was terrifyingly realistic. He started screaming for his mother, and had it not been over-convincing, I would have rolled my eyes at the cliché.



Now, I've heard stories from members of my reenactment company (primarily from my First Sergeant) of different ways they had died, or had seen others die.

He told me of one case when rebel artillery "loaded with grapeshot" took down the entire company near the end of the battle. During that, he said many of them had actually gone Airborne, throwing themselves hard on the ground, and even hitting eachother.

Another story told was of a man who bought a realistic suit to put under his jacket, which showed a ghastly wound to the stomach. After taking a hot and screaming profusely, he tore open his jacket while near the public to show the gore that the suit had entailed.


Through my study of the civil war (when I'm not studying caps and clothing) has enlightened me to many harrowing accounts. Those are where I draw ideas for deaths. And, sometimes I just come up with ideas that would be interesting to try. Here are a few I have considered.



1 . Shot through the eyes.
Based off a story told from the perspective of a NCO/officer who had found a soldier in the aftermath of a battle sitting with his hands in his lap, sitting like a child on the ground. As they went to get the attention of the soldier, he saw that both eyes were shot out, and he was in shock. I do not recall if he survived.
My idea would be using some kind of black facepaint on my eyelids, so when I close me eyes, it would just be dark circles instead of eyes. Probably done sometimes when you're near the audience so they can see the effect clearer.

2 . Mercy kill.
I've read about soldiers being spared or a painful death by being shot or stabbed by a pistol or something of the sort.
Preferably by an officer (because saber/handgun). This could just be a realistic death, followed by either a friendly soldier or a disturbed enemy putting an end to the wounded.

3 . Losing a hand.
We're going Saving Private Ryan style here.
My coat is VERY long. Including the sleeves. Using this to an advantage, one may be able to slip a fake hand in a haversack, and before taking a hit, you quickly grab it, and try to pull off a convincing severing shot, probably from cannon fire. This can either be pulled off real good, or be horrendous. After getting your hand shot off, you'd probably pick it up and scream as you run off the field… or just get shot again.

4 . Bullet in the bible… followed by a bullet to the chest.
Another one that would probably be done close to the audience, where you stick a prop bible/journal/hardtack with a struck bullet in it into your coat. Take a hit and fall t the ground. Quickly stand back up, and pull the prop from your coat, make some kind of excited exclaim, and either continue fighting, or take a hit right after.

5 . "where's my hat?"
One that I have yet to figure out a good way to pull off, but would be interesting to do, is have some kind of rigging to yank a cap off your head after a bullet struck it. Pick it up right after, or get it after the battle.



Every now and then I'll probably throw in another idea, or one that I heard about or witnessed. Any ideas, thoughts, stories, etc. would also be welcome.

I would like to make it clear, I do not want to make fun of what soldiers went through and experienced, but I also want to make it enjoyable to the audience. If you wish to say something against my portrayals that is entirely negative, feel free to direct message me, and don't spread the "love" here.

Best of stuffs,
-Seth
At least in the old days of reenacting I found most soldiers were indestructible. Like ironclads of old, they advanced through point blank volleys unscathed. An army of those reenactors could have conquered the world LOL.
 
At least in the old days of reenacting I found most soldiers were indestructible. Like ironclads of old, they advanced through point blank volleys unscathed. An army of those reenactors could have conquered the world LOL.
Unfortunately, nothing has changed. Second Battle we flanked the rebs, all aimed, fired...

And we must have been all aimed at the same person, because the one guy on the end fell in a snap... everybody else... they continued reloading.
 

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