Doing research for a friend.

[Desert Kid]

I'm trying to find anything on the ancestors and relatives of Louis Duderstadt. He's the grandfather of a friend of mine. He was born around Nordheim, Dewitt County, Texas. All I know is that they were German-Texan Fourty-Eighters that came over on the Neptune and landed in Galveston. They also have relatives by the name of Carl William (or Wilhem?) Rummel.

I'm trying to find any sort of ancestry he had, and relatives, and if they had Civil War service. But given the German-Texan ancestry I can assume they could be anything Confederate, or conscientious objectors or Unionists.

My neighbor also has an ancestor named Andrew Jackson Brown who lived in Travis County in 1860. But I can't find any sort of service record for him.

 

[AndyHall]

C. W. Rummel and family arrived at Galveston aboard the bark Neptune, from Bremen, Viahenmen, master, on December 15, 1848. Rummel is listed as a farmer from Saxonia. I haven't found anyone named Duderstadt (or similar) arriving at Galveston; it's possible they were part of a family group listed under a different surname. It's also possible the Duderstadts landed directly at Indianola, that funneled a lot of German immigrants into that region and to the Hill Country beyond.

Ships Passenger Lists, Port of Galveston, Texas, 1846-1871. (Easley, South Carolina: Southern Historical Press, 1984).

 

[AndyHall]

Is this the man?

Louis Gottlieb Duderstadt
1892–1982
Birth 25 DEC 1892 • Schroeder, Goliad, Texas, United States
Death 14 APR 1982 • Bexar, Texas, United States​

His father was Otto Duderstadt, living in Goliad County in the 1900 Census. Otto was born in 1863 in Texas, but lists both his parents (Louis' paternal grandparents) as being born in Germany.

 

[AndyHall]

There is a family tree on Ancestry (caveats apply) that lists Otto's father as:

Christian Heinrich Friedrich Duderstadt
1818–1883
Birth 09 JUL 1818 • Luettgenrode Krois, Halberstadt, Sachsen, Germany
Death 05 FEB 1883 • Meyersville, De Witt, Texas, United States​

According to that tree, Christian and his wife Fredirike immigrated to the United States sometime between 1852 and 1854, when their young son Carl died in New Jersey -- if that's right, they probably didn't come directly to Texas from Germany.

 

[Desert Kid]

There is a family tree on Ancestry (caveats apply) that lists Otto's father as:

Christian Heinrich Friedrich Duderstadt
1818–1883
Birth 09 JUL 1818 • Luettgenrode Krois, Halberstadt, Sachsen, Germany
Death 05 FEB 1883 • Meyersville, De Witt, Texas, United States​

According to that tree, Christian and his wife Fredirike immigrated to the United States sometime between 1852 and 1854, when their young son Carl died in New Jersey -- if that's right, they probably didn't come directly to Texas from Germany.

I do know that the Duderstadts came from Germany, all I know is that they were in Texas by 1855. What I need to know is what they were up to during the war. I see that Dewitt County was secessionist. I imagine there being an undercurrent of objections to it due to the German population.

C. W. Rummel and family arrived at Galveston aboard the bark Neptune, from Bremen, Viahenmen, master, on December 15, 1848. Rummel is listed as a farmer from Saxonia. I haven't found anyone named Duderstadt (or similar) arriving at Galveston; it's possible they were part of a family group listed under a different surname. It's also possible the Duderstadts landed directly at Indianola, that funneled a lot of German immigrants into that region and to the Hill Country beyond.

Ships Passenger Lists, Port of Galveston, Texas, 1846-1871. (Easley, South Carolina: Southern Historical Press, 1984).

Yes, that is him! And yeah I'd also float the option of the Duderstadt's coming in through Indianola.

Is this the man?

Louis Gottlieb Duderstadt
1892–1982
Birth 25 DEC 1892 • Schroeder, Goliad, Texas, United States
Death 14 APR 1982 • Bexar, Texas, United States​

His father was Otto Duderstadt, living in Goliad County in the 1900 Census. Otto was born in 1863 in Texas, but lists both his parents (Louis' paternal grandparents) as being born in Germany.

Yeah this looks like it too. Anything on his dad, or what they were doing during the war?

 

[GS]

Good luck in your search, Desert Kid.

 

[ErnieMac]

1870 Census for DeWitt County shows Otto Doodlestadt [sic] as the son of Fred (age 52) and Fredericke (age 43). Fred appears to be short for Friedrich. Both the parents were shown as being born in Prussia, which by 1870 included numerous provinces in what is now western Germany (ie: Hesse, Hanover, etc.). Family also appears in 1880 Census. Find A Grave link to Christian Heinrich Friedrich Duderstadt gives bio, which gives birthplace near Hanover. Friedrich's brother, Andreas Duderstadt is shown as having emigrated thru New Orleans.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/...all&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSsr=161&GRid=70053026&

 

[7th Mississippi Infantry]

I checked both Union & Confederate Texas records on fold3, the name "Duderstadt" produced no results.

 

[AndyHall]

Here are some Duderstadts arriving at New Orleans from Bremen on December 22, 1857, en route to settle in Texas:

 

[Desert Kid]

Got another name. Daniel William Wofford, born in Mississippi in 1825, died in Dewitt, Texas (near Yorktown most likely) in 1901.

 

[Desert Kid]

Found a new name everybody. I need information on William Rummel. Company D of Timmons Texas infantry. Waul's Texas legion.

 

[lelliott19]

Wm Rummel Pvt Co F Waul's TX Legion
Enlisted May 26, 1862 at Houston; absent sick since Aug 17, 1862. Discharged on Surgeons Certificate March 13, 1863 due to Scrofula, a lymphadenopathy of the neck, usually as a result of an infection in the lymph nodes, known as lymphadenitis. It can be caused by tuberculous or non tuberculous mycobacteria (the latter usually from drinking unpasteurized milk from infected cows.)

 

[echo5juliet]

Here are some Duderstadts arriving at New Orleans from Bremen on December 22, 1857, en route to settle in Texas:

Mr Hall, this was posted a ways back, but is a log containing the record of crossing for my second (Christian) and third (Andreas) great grandfathers. I would do just about anything to know how and where you found this. Any info is appreciated.

Findagrave for Andreas:

Fredrich Andreas Duderstadt (1815-1901) - Find a...

Andreas was born in Luettgenrode, Germany. Fredrich also went by Andreas and sometimes John which was confusing because his son is named John. His parents were Heinrich Christian Andreas Duderstadt and Anna Sophie Mumbrauer. Memorial placed on Dec 2, 2010.

www.findagrave.com

 

[lelliott19]

@AndyHall you are being paged. Hope you see this and perhaps can still recall where you located the manifest. @echo5juliet is a descendant of some of the passengers.

 

[Taylin]

Mr Hall, this was posted a ways back, but is a log containing the record of crossing for my second (Christian) and third (Andreas) great grandfathers. I would do just about anything to know how and where you found this. Any info is appreciated.

Is the image he posted not the record of crossing for those people? I found the same record on Ancestry It shows
Andreas Duderstadt
Sophie
Johanne
Christian and
Frederich
With another Christian Duderstadt below.