CW Bullets?

[Bilbrough]

I live in England and have a fine collection of ACW books going back to when I first started collecting as a twelve year old in 1962! Over time I have built up a small collection of bullets as well. Mostly these have come from identified civil war battle sites and so I am certain of their origins. However, recently I bought a few bullets which I am having difficulty in identifying and where I have no source for them. My problem is that I assume minie bullets were fired regularly in military training and competitions in the UK and so I am not sure whether these particular bullets are for "American" weapons (though of course many were imported from the UK) or "English" weapons and any assistance would be appreciated.

I have gone through the Handbook of CW Bullets and Cartridges but cannot be certain of the comparisons and this sort of area is not one of my specialist subjects.

The picture of the minie with grooves round the base is one of 0.45 calibre and the one with no gooves is 0.59 calibre.

 

[Jobe Holiday]

In my opinion, only, the smooth sided bullet is a British Pritchett, even with the emboss from a British ram rod on the nose. The second one, I believe, is an early British .577-.450 Martini.
J.

 

[Old Hickory]

I fully agree with Jobe on the first being a .577 from an Enfield. The second is questionable, rifling doesn't seem deep enough for a Martini Henry to me, but the bullet is weathered quite a bit.