Custer Custer and Pickett

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I've been giving some thought to these two lately and they seem to have been quite similar. Both graduated at or near the bottom of his West Point class. Both could arguably be described as vain, flamboyant glory seekers. Both had wives that spent a long widowhood burnishing her husband's reputation and legend. Both, in reality, did not live up to that legend (as if anyone could). Is it even possible now, to form an accurate assessment of the two men, separate from the tragically heroic mythology? I wonder.
 
That's true. I tend to not be a big Custer fan, but I try to keep an open mind about him.
He was definitely a unique character. I don't think anything much scared him and he was an accomplished field commander. He was impulsive and arrogant and an a??hole at times. He died young so we never got to see how he might have matured.
 
There is one important difference between the 2 men. Custer had a fairly renowned career throughout the CW, in contrast to Pickett, whose career only went downhill after Gettysburg. On the other hand, both officers are mostly remembered in history and memory for their roles in single battles, both cases that ended in failure. Pickett's Charge and Custer's Last Stand.
 
There is one important difference between the 2 men. Custer had a fairly renowned career throughout the CW, in contrast to Pickett, whose career only went downhill after Gettysburg. On the other hand, both officers are mostly remembered in history and memory for their roles in single battles, both cases that ended in failure. Pickett's Charge and Custer's Last Stand.
If you couple Pickett's performance in the Mexican War with Custer's in the ACW (both fairly complimentary); and then couple Pickett's performance later in the ACW with Custer's in the Indian Wars, there appears to be more similarities than differences between the two…..career-wise.

I don't know, I'm not real edumacated.
 
If you couple Pickett's performance in the Mexican War with Custer's in the ACW (both fairly complimentary); and then couple Pickett's performance later in the ACW with Custer's in the Indian Wars, there appears to be more similarities than differences between the two…..career-wise.

I don't know, I'm not real edumacated.
Perhaps. But Pickett, who was greatly affected by the failed assault at Gettysburg, never commanded the same respect and position in the CSA afterwards.
 
Over the years, I've dug deep into Custer which involved the Civil War years and the Indian Plains War. He is a much more complex individual then I originally thought. I still don't get his behavior at West Point but while researching others and their demerits, I like to sum it up as "boys will be boys". I've spent less time on Pickett, mainly concentrating on Gettysburg, the open field and his actions. When looking at both Custer and Pickett, I see glory because that is what I believe they both sought. Glory from the field. Controversary plagued each one during and after the war. But I think the way each man met his problems totally separated the two from any similar traits. Pickett became angry, traveled to Canada and held resentment against Lee and others. I'm not judging Pickett for his feelings, I think the man deserved to be recognized, and respected by his superiors. Pickett definitely changed after Gettysburg, but I think the Confederacy as a whole changed after Gettysburg. Custer, on the other hand, thrived on the controversary stage and as the years went on, it seems that his personal battles encouraged him to demand even more respect and attention. He placed himself on a high ladder on shaky ground. The goal, however, at least for Custer never changed and if his final summer has taught me anything about the man, it's taught me just how important that goal was for him personally. It meant the respect he desired without the questions, and it meant the future when his days would be spent off the field. The summer of 1876 caused Custer to reach harder for this goal than ever before. If the roles of both men were reversed, I don't think Pickett's charge would have happened in the way that it did. But, even if it did, I don't see Custer ever giving up on his reputation and I can't see Custer becoming an insurance agent after the war. Custer and Pickett, similarities? I define them both as legends, immortals who were deeply loved by their wives and are still seeking their Glory on the field.
 
In regard to Custer, I have been reading about him all my adult life and a big part of my childhood, but I don't believe a person can develop the ability to see into a man's soul who has been dead for 140+ years, to the extent that they can say with any degree of certainty what motivated his every deed. He did this because he was arrogant, he did that because he was vainglorious, he did the other because he was a show off. As an officer commanding soldiers in battle I have assumed however, that he wanted to emerge victorious.

There are similarities between Custer and Pickett of course, but there are differences too. To name one, I can't imagine Custer being at a shad bake during a battle, at least not if he could help it.

John
 

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