CSA sword

[ramkuma]

Anyone know what type of sword?

 

[Present Arms]

BLUF: No. It is not in Peterson, or Bezdek or other of my sword references. The most visible clue is where the branches of the knuckle bow meet, and I do not see that feature in any photo of any American, Confederate or European sword. It is possible that the sword did not belong to the soldier in the photo, and may have been a photographer's prop. Try to find more details about swords made for export in Solingen, Germany. Enjoy your search for the fact, which is most of the fun of collecting.

 

[UCVRelics]

The pommel screams model 1840 cavalry sword.

 

[Story]

Anyone know what type of sword?

Any photographer's marks on the back of this?

Knowing who/where took it could be a clue.

 

[gjpratt]

The pommel screams model 1840 cavalry sword.

Yeah, but what is that decoration on the knucklebow?

 

[UCVRelics]

Yeah, but what is that decoration on the knucklebow?

You see those and the decoration up near the pommel on officers swords.

 

[ramkuma]

Any photographer's marks on the back of this?

Knowing who/where took it could be a clue.

No. But likely photo taken in Richmond, VA, by Rees

 

[Story]

No. But likely photo taken in Richmond, VA, by Rees

How's that?

 

[ramkuma]

How's that?

Soldier is from VA. Pose and table cloth consistent with Rees photographer in Richmond

 

[History hoarder63]

Anyone know what type of sword?

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It's almost certainly a Confederate Foot Officer's sword made by McElroy of Macon Ga.

 

[Story]

Soldier is from VA. Pose and table cloth consistent with Rees photographer in Richmond

So you know his name?

 

[Albion]

A Thomas Griswold Staff Officer sword seems to have similar band at knucklebow junction.
Illustrated at a site called Civil War Preservations, I know nothing about the site but
I presume it is ok to put a link address here

Civil War Preservations - Museum - Confederate Swords 1

www.civilwarpreservations.com

 

[Present Arms]

Here is a Griswold sword from Richard Bezdek American Swords & Sword Makers Vol II, page 310.

 

[UCVRelics]

It's almost certainly a Confederate Foot Officer's sword made by McElroy of Macon Ga.

The McElroy Foot Officers sword does not have the big dome pommel cap as the one in the photo posted.

 

[Present Arms]

The photo of the soldier with the sword appears to be reversed.

 

[Richard E. Schenk]

Sword looks similar to the French Mle1821 infantry officer's sword. Here is a photo of one marketed by Horstmann about 1850.

 

[History hoarder63]

The McElroy Foot Officers sword does not have the big dome pommel cap as the one in the photo posted.
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McElroy, Herrington & Co produced an officer's sword that was a direct copy of the French sword right down to the little bulb on the guard. It is referenced and pictured in Confederate Edged Weapons and the Photographic Supplement of Confederate Swords by William Albaugh.

 

[History hoarder63]

McElroy, Herrington & Co produced an officer's sword that was a direct copy of the French sword right down to the little bulb on the guard. It is referenced and pictured in Confederate Edged Weapons and the Photographic Supplement of Confederate Swords by William Albaugh.

Here is a McElroy & Harrington Officer's sword. Another feature of these is that they tend not to have any wire wrap or leather on the handle. In the pic of the soldier with the sword, it also appears to me to not have wire wrap on the handle. French Model 1821's all have wire wrap.

 

[UCVRelics]

In the pic of the soldier with the sword, it also appears to me to not have wire wrap on the handle

It has wire looks like 2 strands and the McElroy & Harrington pictured does not have as large of pommel as the one pictured. Just sayin.

 

[History hoarder63]

It has wire looks like 2 strands and the McElroy & Harrington pictured does not have as large of pommel as the one pictured. Just sayin.
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Here is another McElroy & Harrington sword with a different pommel cap (page 132 A Photographic Supplement of Confederate Swords, William Albaugh). Not quite as high as the one in the picture but close. Not really seeing the wire wrap in the pic above, should be more prominent along the whole handle in my opinion but easily could be wrong about it.