Could use some help with a project please.

[AndyHall]

And if I left out Peggy.....that one, too. I have all of them in one tree or the other.

Hopefully not this one.

 

[BrassVols]

Well, it looks like this is Goodspeed's bio. What little I know of Goodspeed, he personally interviewed his subjects. Nonetheless, his bios for one or two of my ancestors do contain some errors.

Excellent info, had no idea he personally interviewed all those people. Dude got around, huh!

 

[BrassVols]

Hopefully not this one.

Nice!

 

[BrassVols]

Glad to help. I don't know why he doesn't show up in the CSRs at NARA. That would have been a problem in most cases, because it made it harder to verify his service. (Local pension boards or the state board often wrote to the War Department, which then held all Confederate military records, for these verifications.) Presumably Burns was able to overcome this and get his pension on the basis of affidavits from others who had personal knowledge of his service.

Andy/Terry,
With the lack of information on him from TN CS and NARA, is there anywhere else I can apply for his service records with any amount of certainty?

 

[AndyHall]

I think your best bet would be to go directly to the Tennessee State Library and Archives, that (presumably) holds the original pension applications that are missing from the digitized material at FamilySearch. (Unless it's missing at FamilySearch because it's missing from the Tennessee files, as well.) That will probably be your best source to verify his service. I didn't see anything for him in the old Confederate Veteran magazine.

 

[BrassVols]

I think your best bet would be to go directly to the Tennessee State Library and Archives, that (presumably) holds the original pension applications that are missing from the digitized material at FamilySearch. (Unless it's missing at FamilySearch because it's missing from the Tennessee files, as well.) That will probably be your best source to verify his service. I didn't see anything for him in the old Confederate Veteran magazine.

I will do just that next week, appreciate it.

 

[TerryB]

I will do just that next week, appreciate it.

Saturday parking is free in the employee lots on the side and back of the building. Weekdays you have to hope you get a parking space out front (parallel parking). Sometimes I park at the library, get my ticket stamped, then walk to the TSLA. There's a small fee to park at the public library garage, but with a stamped ticket, it's a lot less.

 

[BrassVols]

Saturday parking is free in the employee lots on the side and back of the building. Weekdays you have to hope you get a parking space out front (parallel parking). Sometimes I park at the library, get my ticket stamped, then walk to the TSLA. There's a small fee to park at the public library garage, but with a stamped ticket, it's a lot less.

Priceless info Terry, wish I could go Saturday but going to Memphis tomorrow night for a football game and probably won't get home till early Saturday morning.

 

[kelley]

Found this on Ancestry. It has no sourcing, no citations, and so should be used with caution:

Biography from GoodSpeed

Jacob B. Burns, one of Wayne County's pioneers, is a son of Samuel L. and Sarah A. Burns, and was born in 1832.
His parents were Tennesseans and farmers; the father being an extensive stock raiser, in which business he became quite wealthy. He was sheriff of Wayne County two terms. He died on his farm on Buffalo River (which he purchased in 1837) in 1880. His wife died in 1877. His father, William Burns, was the first man to represent Wayne County in the State Legislature.

Pattie E. Johnston became our subjects wife in 1861; she was born in 1843, daughter of John C. Johnston, and became the mother of the following interesting family. Sarah A., Mattie V., Elizabeth J., Mary L., Anna L., Edna (who died in 1876), Lillie J., Carrie K., Lela K., (who died in 1883), Florence B., Willie, Myrtle R, and two infants deceased.

At the age of twenty-three our subject began doing for himself on the farm where he now lives, which was given him by his father. It consists of 500 acres, 300 acres of which are in a good state of cultivation. He raises corn, small grain and cotton and has recently paid considerable attention to stock raising. In 1867 he, in partnership with J. A. Clendennin, opened a mercantile house in the village of Ashland; but at the end of ten years our subject sold out and engaged in the same business on his farm, continuing about five years. His mercantile life did not prove successful, although he is a man of good business qualifications.

He joined the Confederate Army in 1862 and served until 1863, when he was discharged on account of disability. After remaining at home about one year he re-entered the service, remaining about six months, when he again became disabled and did not again enlist. He is a member of the Methodist Episcopal Church South, and is a Democrat. His wife belongs to the Cumberland Presbyterian Church.​

 

[kelley]

Found this on Ancestry. It has no sourcing, no citations, and so should be used with caution:

Biography from GoodSpeed

Jacob B. Burns, one of Wayne County's pioneers, is a son of Samuel L. and Sarah A. Burns, and was born in 1832.
His parents were Tennesseans and farmers; the father being an extensive stock raiser, in which business he became quite wealthy. He was sheriff of Wayne County two terms. He died on his farm on Buffalo River (which he purchased in 1837) in 1880. His wife died in 1877. His father, William Burns, was the first man to represent Wayne County in the State Legislature.

Pattie E. Johnston became our subjects wife in 1861; she was born in 1843, daughter of John C. Johnston, and became the mother of the following interesting family. Sarah A., Mattie V., Elizabeth J., Mary L., Anna L., Edna (who died in 1876), Lillie J., Carrie K., Lela K., (who died in 1883), Florence B., Willie, Myrtle R, and two infants deceased.

At the age of twenty-three our subject began doing for himself on the farm where he now lives, which was given him by his father. It consists of 500 acres, 300 acres of which are in a good state of cultivation. He raises corn, small grain and cotton and has recently paid considerable attention to stock raising. In 1867 he, in partnership with J. A. Clendennin, opened a mercantile house in the village of Ashland; but at the end of ten years our subject sold out and engaged in the same business on his farm, continuing about five years. His mercantile life did not prove successful, although he is a man of good business qualifications.

He joined the Confederate Army in 1862 and served until 1863, when he was discharged on account of disability. After remaining at home about one year he re-entered the service, remaining about six months, when he again became disabled and did not again enlist. He is a member of the Methodist Episcopal Church South, and is a Democrat. His wife belongs to the Cumberland Presbyterian Church.​

This is where i live now. My family has lived in the Ashland community since the 1800's. This is an interersting website and I have actually learned a few things I didnt previous know.

 

[kelley]

I

My father in law bought a farm in Wayne Co. Tn. some 20 years ago that contains a small family plot of a half dozen graves.
We maintain the cemetery and have built a fence around it for protection. Each time I'm near this plot I can't help but focus on the largest headstone for a Jacob Biffle Burns b. 1832 and his wife Pattie. Honestly I have no excuse for taking so long to research, but I knew with that name and at that age he's almost a guaranteed Confederate soldier.
This is what I've been able to find......

Bio - Jacob Biffle Burns
Jacob B. Burns, one of Wayne County's pioneers, is a son of Samuel L. and Sarah A. Burns, and was born in 1832. His parents were Tennesseans and farmers; the father being an extensive stock raiser, in which business he became quite wealthy. he was sheriff of Wayne County two terms. He died on his farm on Buffalo River (which he purchased in 1837) in 1880. His wife died in 1877. His father, William Burns, was the first man to represent Wayne County in the State Legislature. Pattie E. Johnston became our subjects wife in 1861; she was born in 1843, daughter of John C. Johnston, and became the mother of the following interesting family. Sarah A., Mattie V., Elizabeth J., Mary L., Anna L., Edna (who died in 1876), Lillie J., Carrie K., Lela K., (who died in 1883), Florence B., Willie, Myrtle R, and two infants deceased. At the age of twenty-three our subject began doing for himself on the farm where he now lives, which was given him by his father. It consists of 500 acres, 300 acres of which are in a good state of cultivation. He raises corn, small grain and cotton and has recently paid considerable attention to stock raising. In 1867 he, in partnership with J. A. Clendennin, opened a mercantile house in the village of Ashland; but at the end of ten years our subject sold out and engaged in the same business on his farm, continuing about five years. His mercantile life did not prove successful, although he is a man of good business qualifications. He joined the Confederate Army in 1862 and served until 1863, when he was discharged on account of disability. After remaining at home about one year he re-entered the service, remaining about six months, when he again became disabled and did not again enlist. He is a member of the Methodist Episcopal Church South, and is a Democrat. His wife belongs to the Cumberland Presbyterian Church.
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I don't think the bio is 100% correct on death date of wife as it shows both he and his widow on pension lists. I'm not sure if either pension was granted. Is the index for all that applied or only for those that received?

TN Soldier Pension Index (Wayne Co.)
BURNS, J. B., 7078, 19th (Biffle's) Cav.

TN Widow Pension Index (Lewis Co.)
NAME: Burns, Jacob Biffle.
WIDOW: Burns, Pattie E.
PENSION #: W3089



We would like to honor this man by applying for a military stone and I'm humbly requesting information for proof of service and/or pension info to assist us in doing so please.
Thanks very much,
Scott

*forgot to add the original marker is so badly damaged from years of not being cared for, it's practically illegible.

I live in the ashland community . My family has lived here for years and years. I think what your doing is wonderful.

 

[BrassVols]

Hi Kelley,
Check your message inbox, I may be familiar with your family.