Confederate Wounded at Vicksburg

[johan_steele]

No I am not certain about his arm, thats what I am trying to find out. You make a good point it could have been severe internal injuries. I do know he languished bed ridden for a year or so before his death in 1903. Whether this is attributed to his wound at Vicksburg I do not know. Im just trying to piece together his story as complete as possible. On to more leads, I appreciate everyone's input.

Have you investigated if there might be an an obituary for him? I've found those to be rather detailed on occasion. Oftentimes they would be written up by comrades from the UCV or local GAR hall with quite a lot of detail. The local SCV camp may have some historical records. Might be one more avenue to check.

I hope I'm not annoying you with so many suggestions or avenues of research.

 

[Rebtracker]

Here's his obit.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/60192349/elias-green-mancill/photo

 

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GREEN MANCILL was wounded at Vicksburg and lost the use of his right arm. His wound was so bad that he could not return to active duty after he was paroled. Even though he lived until February of 1903, he suffered a great deal with his wound. Green Mancill received a pension until he died and then his wife Nancy Jane received it until her death in 1937. She was buried beside her husband in the Mancill Graveyard in Sanford, Alabama. Her grandsons were pall bearers at her funeral. Her casket was carried in a horse drawn wagon. A wooden bridge had to be constructed to carry her to the gravesite. Remnants of that old bridge can still be found. Green's headstone was placed in 1930. Due to an error on the marker application, Green's first name was incorrectly spelled Elisha, which happened to be his brother's name, who is not buried there. The Southern Cross can be seen at the top of the headstone honoring his service to the Confederacy. The town of Sanford plans to place a historical marker at the site in the near future. .
Elias Green Mancill was described as being about 5 foot 8 inches tall, with light complexion, and light colored hair. He and his family were well respected members and life long farmers in the Sanford, Covington County, Community..

Died at the age of 66.

 

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...and there it is. Thank you for posting that Rebtracker.

 

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Have you investigated if there might be an an obituary for him? I've found those to be rather detailed on occasion. Oftentimes they would be written up by comrades from the UCV or local GAR hall with quite a lot of detail. The local SCV camp may have some historical records. Might be one more avenue to check.

I hope I'm not annoying you with so many suggestions or avenues of research.

...and no sir you are not annoying me at all, everyone's suggestions are greatly appreciated. Family history research is a passion for me and every new little detail I discover about an ancestor brings me that much closer to knowing them.

 

[Vicksburger]

My GG Grandfather Pvt. Elias Green Mancill of Co. E - 42nd Alabama, was severely wounded at Vicksburg. He survived but was later discharged do to being unable to serve physically, in January of 1864. What puzzles me is that he is not listed in the parole records after the surrender. Through my research I have been trying to piece together the events between his wounding (which I suppose occurred most likely on May 22 when the 42nd position was attacked during the assault on the 2nd Texas lunette) and his discharge many months later.

My question to the experts, is there any evidence of wounded evacuated out of Vicksburg during the siege, especially during the initial months? I have scoured this site (and many other sources) looking for anything on this but have not found anything. Could this just be a case of lost records? I have seen parole records that indicate the individual signed while in the hospital so if he was still in the hospital facilities it would seem he would have been recorded there. This is a big mystery to me and any information any of you may have is greatly appreciated.

Have you found an answer? That is interesting. Why would there not be a Parole for him? I know Tompre said there was a Brigade Hospital not too far from the 2nd Texas Lunette. They buried the men who died around there according to Rev. Foster's Letter. But if he (your ancestor) survived there should be a parole, seems to me. But I never thought about if a soldier was seriously injured. I know Sterling Fisher of the 2nd Texas almost died, he was so severely wounded. I wonder if he has a Parole for him? If not, I would assume those guys just got shipped to the Hospital at Enterprise or where ever? I will be interested in reading what Alan Polk, Tompre, 7th Miss., 1st MS-Arty or Forrest have to think about this?

 

[Vicksburger]

Should this be moved to Vicksburg threads?

 

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Have you found an answer? That is interesting. Why would there not be a Parole for him? I know Tompre said there was a Brigade Hospital not too far from the 2nd Texas Lunette. They buried the men who died around there according to Rev. Foster's Letter. But if he (your ancestor) survived there should be a parole, seems to me. But I never thought about if a soldier was seriously injured. I know Sterling Fisher of the 2nd Texas almost died, he was so severely wounded. I wonder if he has a Parole for him? If not, I would assume those guys just got shipped to the Hospital at Enterprise or where ever? I will be interested in reading what Alan Polk, Tompre, 7th Miss., 1st MS-Arty or Forrest have to think about this?

This is a question I have:

Does anyone know if the NPS Parole lists for Vicksburg are based on the copies of the Parole Certificates that still exist or are their Parole documents based on something else. I am wondering if this could be a case where his Parole record has simply been lost. How complete do we believe the NPS Parole Records are?

 

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...and if we need to move this to the Vicksburg thread, no problem. This post started specifically about my Grandfather but has changed somewhat to a specific Vicksburg discussion. Does a Moderator do this, or do I?

 

[jack1492]

Looks like your ancestor did not have his arm amputated but I also know of a case where a soldier lost his arm at Vicksburg and joined back up with his light artillery company. What he actually did during the Atlanta Campaign is not clear. He finally got a Surgeon's certificate for medical discharge after Atlanta was evacuated.

 

[redbob]

There is a Confederate Cemetery near Shelby Springs, Alabama which was located at a hospital that was located on the railroad line. The story goes that the sick/ wounded in this hospital came by railroad from Vicksburg and it's surroundings when a hospital in Vicksburg was evacuated.

 

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Redbob, thank you, that is an excellent lead.

 

[redbob]

Redbob, thank you, that is an excellent lead.

Google Confederate Cemetery near Shelby Springs Alabama and see where it takes you.