Confederate light Calvary sword?

[TNcollector]

I ran across this sword that has an unstopped fuller. Is this a light confederate Calvary sword of some time I have never seen one with a hilt like this I wanted to see if anyone reconized it.

Thanks, Rob

 

[Story]

Nothing on the blade?

I thought one of the indicators of Confederate manufacture was brass ring mounts?

Also, because it's just low-hanging fruit...

 

[TNcollector]

Yeah I think autocorrect on my phone got me there.... I am aware of the brass ring mounts especially on southern made copies of the 1840 model wrist breakers.

 

[TNcollector]

I just figured out after searching the web it is a model US 1872 Calvary saber. I just have never seen on like this with an unstopped fuller before

 

[mofederal]

I've owned a Model 1872. Mine was had a very ornate hilt. Actually it was a work of art. It was an officer's model.Not identified at all, but nice. It was not like this one, mine had a stopped fuller.

 

[TNcollector]

Nothing on the blade?

I thought one of the indicators of Confederate manufacture was brass ring mounts?

Also, because it's just low-hanging fruit...
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That was because of autocorrect on my phone. I just wanted to say there is no point in being a smart aze. If you don't have anything to contribute don't respond. I thought this was a good forum where I can learn as a young collector. I have never dealt with anyone on this forum that has been intentionally rude.

 

[Story]

That was because of autocorrect on my phone. I just wanted to say there is no point in being a smart aze. If you don't have anything to contribute don't respond. I thought this was a good forum where I can learn as a young collector. I have never dealt with anyone on this forum that has been intentionally rude.

Lighten up, see the humor for what it is, scroll back and see where I asked leading questions.

If it bothers you that much, you can always go back and correct your spelling mistakes with the edit function.

 

[Glen_C]

I just figured out after searching the web it is a model US 1872 Calvary saber. I just have never seen on like this with an unstopped fuller before

There were no m1872 trooper swords. Bannerman put together some from parts in the 20th century but I am not sure this is one of them. With the boss we see at the juncture of the guard and pommel, I doubt it to be a US casting. Keep in mind that the French 1822 derivatives were used by countries around the world and that there were more than just three countries making them for more than a century. Brass mounts really don't mean much, so I would approach that as a factor for confederate use rather whimsically.

All that not to say that it might have been imported into the US and that cavalry swords of this type were quite popular with some fraternal groups and the possibilities compound somewhat exponentially.

Cheers

Sometimes a sword is just a sword,

GC

 

[kevikens]

There were no m1872 trooper swords. Bannerman put together some from parts in the 20th century but I am not sure this is one of them. With the boss we see at the juncture of the guard and pommel, I doubt it to be a US casting. Keep in mind that the French 1822 derivatives were used by countries around the world and that there were more than just three countries making them for more than a century. Brass mounts really don't mean much, so I would approach that as a factor for confederate use rather whimsically.

All that not to say that it might have been imported into the US and that cavalry swords of this type were quite popular with some fraternal groups and the possibilities compound somewhat exponentially.

Cheers

Sometimes a sword is just a sword,

GC

Speaking of the French Model 1822, I once bought one at an antiques store thinking it was a Model 1840, "wrist breaker". Had it not been for the scabbard, with only one ring, I probably would have continued to think it an 1840. By the way, I know the sword and scabbard went together because the two had been hit by some missile, bullet or shrapnel, that damaged both and, when sheathed, the damaged blade and damaged scabbard align perfectly. Though a post CW weapon I have always wondered about the damage and the guy carrying it when it was hit.

 

[Richard E. Schenk]

Glen is right about there being no M1872 cavalry troopers' swords, but that did not stop most of the military supply houses from selling them. There is some question about who bought them. They were not used by the regular Army, but some suggest they might have been used by some militia elements. Others say they were only used by civilian/paramilitary bodies like fraternal organizations, marching bands, and military schools. I personally don't know enough about them to really have an opinion.

 

[Glen_C]

Some skinnys at a social

In my files for eons but no idea of reference of the group.