Clothing issues, Savannah Squadron.

[Republican Blues]

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[7th Mississippi Infantry]

" 12 grey round jackets"

That's just not right for a sailor.

 

[Republican Blues]

" 12 grey round jackets"

That's just not right for a sailor.

7th MS,

I think I misunderstood your post... if you meant not right by the color gray, you wouldnt be alone... My apologies for misunderstanding sir..

 

[7th Mississippi Infantry]

LOL, yeah I was talking about the color gray.

I'm with the officers that got upset the CSN uniforms would be gray rather than the international naval tradition of blue uniforms.

 

[Republican Blues]

LOL, yeah I was talking about the color gray.

I'm with the officers that got upset the CSN uniforms would be gray rather than the international naval tradition of blue uniforms.

Cool beans... yeah there were quite a few that were not happy with that... funny part is you still saw alot of blue.. note the issuance of blue caps.

 

[7th Mississippi Infantry]

I did notice that about the blue caps.

IMHO, when it was all said and done, the gray uniforms did look pretty good.

 

[Republican Blues]

What should be noted is they say gray or white overshirts... not frocks, or sailors shirts... that and an image that is suppsoed to be Savannah Squadron sailors indicate that they may have been common ready made laborers overshirts..

Like this

Said to be Savannah Squadron Sailors

 

[rebelatsea]

Uniform dress for sailors was not common at sea until the middle part of the C19th . Individual Captains sometimes dressed their crews alike (according to how much money they had usually ) The French led the way to introducing a standard dress code for seamen, but initially it was still left to Captains how they were styled.
For Once the RN was left behind, Horatio Nelson being one of the first to advocate a common uniform dress, and put it into practice. However blue was not universal for some time, white and various shades of gray or brown were common according to the materials used. Two Countries stand out in using green for some time - Russia, and Austria Hungary.

I personally like the steel blue gray of the CSN, but remember that this was before the days of mass produced chemical dyes and shades of any colour could vary.

 

[Republican Blues]

Uniform dress for sailors was not common at sea until the middle part of the C19th . Individual Captains sometimes dressed their crews alike (according to how much money they had usually ) The French led the way to introducing a standard dress code for seamen, but initially it was still left to Captains how they were styled.
For Once the RN was left behind, Horatio Nelson being one of the first to advocate a common uniform dress, and put it into practice. However blue was not universal for some time, white and various shades of gray or brown were common according to the materials used. Two Countries stand out in using green for some time - Russia, and Austria Hungary.

I personally like the steel blue gray of the CSN, but remember that this was before the days of mass produced chemical dyes and shades of any colour could vary.

Agreed. The first US naval regulation actually stipulating a uniform, or for that matter grooming standards was the Regulations of 1841, which stipulated blue with white cuffs and collars. Eventually this was changed in 1859 to all blue, with whites haveing blue collars and cuffs. The painted straw hats were replaced in 1851 with the flat hat. Confederate naval regulations tried to stick with the 1841-1859 style when the change from Blue to gray took place.

 

[Republican Blues]

Here is one from Mobile..

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Note the mixture of Blue and Gray clothing issued..

 

[Mark F. Jenkins]

I notice that several of the documents reference CSS Isondiga.

Related post: http://civilwartalk.com/threads/css-isondiga.95368/

Isondiga appears to have been one of the "Maury Gunboats," or at least had been begun under the auspices of that program. I must confess that I know comparatively little about them, but perhaps I'll learn more once I crack into the bio of Maury waiting for me on my shelf...

 

[vikingbear]

I notice that several of the documents reference CSS Isondiga.

Related post: http://civilwartalk.com/threads/css-isondiga.95368/

Isondiga appears to have been one of the "Maury Gunboats," or at least had been begun under the auspices of that program. I must confess that I know comparatively little about them, but perhaps I'll learn more once I crack into the bio of Maury waiting for me on my shelf...

Hi Mark,

Which Maury bio are you planning to read? Am still digging up info during the little time I have left over. Know what you guys mean about some info totally opposite of others, how do you decide what is true? or that both mabe be true at that point in time?

GRIZZ

 

[Mark F. Jenkins]

I picked up Chester G. Hearn's Tracks in the Sea. I have a number of Hearn's other books and I like his writing, so I figured it was a good gateway to Maury.

When there are conflicting reports or evidence, I do my best to note and document both. Sometimes the process of documentation reveals which option is more likely, or at least how the difference may have come about. To cite a specific example, some of the details of Henry Walke's and Isaac Newton Brown's descriptions of the fight between Arkansas and Carondelet are contradictory, such as the Arkansas' firing of her bow guns. An account by Confederate Lt. George Gift, commanding the Arkansas' bow guns, supports Walke's contention that the Arkansas fired her forward battery on approach [and, along with other clues, cause me to question how clearly Brown remembered the events of the day, especially considering he took multiple head injuries in the action].

 

[5750rich]

Guys,
A question on the grey work shirt ,would this shirt have had the petty officer sleeve rank insignia ?.
thanks,
Richard Houf

 

[Republican Blues]

Guys,
A question on the grey work shirt ,would this shirt have had the petty officer sleeve rank insignia ?.
thanks,
Richard Houf

if the feller were a petty officer... yes. THese overshirts were issued in lieu of ready made Navy frocks... if the ship had the material or procured it, or the sailor did, no doubt they may have made some ship made frocks, but the laborers shirt was issued because of its commonality and that it was readily available.