Civil War revolver?

[major bill]

I went to a small military museum today. As of late I am seeing a lot of "Civil War" items that are not from the Civil War. How can I trust these Museums? They claim this is a Civil War revolver. How can one be sure?

 

[R. Porter]

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[major bill]

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Well it is in a case with Civil War items. Perhaps I should leave it at that. I do not own the museum. Now I am questioning the musket in the same
display case.

 

[R. Porter]

The musket with the lock stamp that looks like "SPRING over FIELD over 1826" looks ok to me. It doesn't have the usual cone in barrel conversion from flintlock to percussion so maybe the conversion was closer to the Civil War by someone other than a U.S. arsenal or U.S. private contract. Perhaps a state arsenal did the conversion or contracted for it. I don't have access to my reference books at the moment so I can't suggest anything there. It has the look of something that was a battlefield pickup or barn find; it doesn't appear to be converted to civilian use or something used by Native Americans. Can you see any marks on the stock or metal parts? Any Confederate cleaning and reissue marks? Can you look at the other side of the stock for inspector marks?

Disclaimer: I'm not an expert in firearms, plenty of others on the board put me to shame. Usually my only advantage is a reference book but I don't have access to them right now.

 

[major bill]

The musket is in a locked display case in a local military display. The Museum is mostly about local history on the late 1800s, but put together a military "house" amoung a dozen other buildings full of artifacts. While they have some truly wonderful military items, they also have a few iffy items. They appear to rely on local donations.

I have serious doubts they have the staff needed to understand exactly what the have. For example they have some Michigan Spanish American War items that are amazing. To them these are a Spanish American War tunic and canteen. While they list the owners, I have doubts they understand how rare any Spanish American War items related to a specific soldier or specific company are.

 

[rob63]

I agree that the revolver looks like a toy, and that the musket looks legit although I think the hammer is likely a later replacement rather than what was put on it during the percussion conversion.

I love museums, but likewise find that mistakes are pretty common. It's not just the small ones either, I can think of false information in one display that I see every time I visit the Smithsonian in DC.

I have also found that it doesn't seem to do any good to point out their errors to them. I guess I can understand that, you are simply an outsider while whoever did the display is somebody that is actually there. Better to annoy you, the visitor, than the guy that comes in to help. Anything, in any museum, should be taken with a grain of salt.