Civil War Muskets

[treachereditor]

Anyone know what these two are? Models are in two groups of photos: first "photo 0.jpg photo 1.jpg" ... Second"photo one.jpg photo two.jpg " ...

 

[jekct1212]

First one might be Jager second is a flintlock converted 1816 I believe but I'm probably wrong, Johan will know!

 

[Don Dixon]

The first weapon is a Muster 1849 Austro-Hungarian Army (k.k. Army) Kammerbüchse; frequently called a "Garibaldi" rifle in the United States.

The second weapon is a Muster 1842 k.k. Army smoothbore infantry musket converted from tubelock to percussion by Henry Leman of Lancaster, PA, in late 1862 or early 1863. The rear sight on this one is very creative, since Leman removed the Austrian rear sight when he converted the weapons.

Regards,
Don Dixon

 

[treachereditor]

The first weapon is a Muster 1849 Austro-Hungarian Army (k.k. Army) Kammerbüchse; frequently called a "Garibaldi" rifle in the United States.

The second weapon is a Muster 1842 k.k. Army smoothbore infantry musket converted from tubelock to percussion by Henry Leman of Lancaster, PA, in late 1862 or early 1863. The rear sight on this one is very creative, since Leman removed the Austrian rear sight when he converted the weapons.

Regards,
Don Dixon

Thanks for your expertise!

 

[johan_steele]

Don is spot on with his identification.

 

[treachereditor]

Question though - if Leman converted the musket in 1862 0r 63, what does the 81 mean see photo 5.jpg

 

[Don Dixon]

Prior to being imported to arm Federals or Confederates, many of the k.k. Army weapons had served their time with k.k. Army units. A peacetime k.k. Army infantry regiment consisted of 6,886 officers and men in three battalions. A fourth battalion was added during mobilization. The regiment was commanded by a colonel and each of the battalions by a major. So, a k.k. Army regiment was roughly comparable to an American division or small corps, and a k.k. Army battalion was roughly comparable to a small American brigade. The k.k. Army was rank light. A corporal or even a senior private (Gefreiter) was somebody, because he led troops.

k.k. Army weapons were often marked with unit markings on the barrels, butt plates, or side plates. The markings identify the regiment, battalion or company, and the weapon within that unit. I don't have a good crib sheet for unit markings during the System Augustin (tubelock) period, but I would assume that the weapon was issued to the 61st Infantry Regiment (Hungarian) (Graf von Strassoldo), Company A, 4th weapon, when it was in k.k. Army serivce. The markings begin to get to the soul of the weapon.

Regards,
Don Dixon

 

[treachereditor]

Thanks again

 

[Grayrock Volunteer]

Don is right on the money with the Muster 1849, but I think the other is a Wurttemberg musket, most probably a French M1816 or similar arm. If I'm not mistaken, the small metal plate attached to the stock flat (not the side plate) is unique to those arms.

Cheers,
Garrett

 

[originalrebelyell]

I agree both look very nice

 

[John Winn]

It's amazing what resources the members here are. Put another way, 'dang - y'all know everthang."