Civil War Colts

rob63

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I collect old currency in addition to weapons and a few months ago I purchased a $3 bill from Hartford, CT that dates to the Civil War. I decided it would look good with my Colt 1861 Special rifle-musket and Model 1860 revolver. Here are the photos I took, just thought I would share them. Rob
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I collect old currency in addition to weapons and a few months ago I purchased a $3 bill from Hartford, CT that dates to the Civil War. I decided it would look good with my Colt 1861 Special rifle-musket and Model 1860 revolver. Here are the photos I took, just thought I would share them. RobView attachment 5850View attachment 5852View attachment 5853View attachment 5854View attachment 5855View attachment 5856View attachment 5857View attachment 5858View attachment 5859View attachment 5860

Great pics. I have both of these weapons. Your Colt 44 looks exactly like the one I have. Same appearance, same condition, same patina (dark), same everything. The grip on mine however appears to have been buffed a bit at some time in it's history. Not a real big deal but it looks like it was. Cartouche fainter. Your grip looks like it has never been messed with. Nice pieces.
 
Thank you for the kind replies!

p.s. In case you are wondering, yes, I was fishing for compliments. :happy:

I think you stole my Colt! I like the dark patina Colts that were not nickle plated. Course if mine was a fancy nickle plated model I would say I like them best. Actually many of those take on a yellowish patina that I dont like. I saw a Colt Model 1860 on a Pawn Stars re-run yesterday that looked bout in the condition of ours. Their "expert" shot it and it worked ok. He then appraised it at $3,ooo. ????? That's pretty durn high in my estimation but I came in on the segment late and maybe it had something unique about it.
 
I think you stole my Colt! I like the dark patina Colts that were not nickle plated. Course if mine was a fancy nickle plated model I would say I like them best. Actually many of those take on a yellowish patina that I dont like. I saw a Colt Model 1860 on a Pawn Stars re-run yesterday that looked bout in the condition of ours. Their "expert" shot it and it worked ok. He then appraised it at $3,ooo. ????? That's pretty durn high in my estimation but I came in on the segment late and maybe it had something unique about it.
I would agree that is a bit high, but I have seen a number of guns on that show that I thought the estimate was pretty high. I suppose it is also possible that the condition is much better in person than what the TV camera shows. I have seen a number of things on the net questioning just how realistic that show is anyway; they apparently like to bring things in just to show off something interesting and then hire an actor to pretend to be the owner. If that is true, I doubt they put a lot of effort in to making sure the estimates are accurate. Whatever makes for good TV is probably the rule.

I'm like you, I very much prefer guns with a dark patina. I like my old guns to actually look old, not all shined up.
 
I would agree that is a bit high, but I have seen a number of guns on that show that I thought the estimate was pretty high. I suppose it is also possible that the condition is much better in person than what the TV camera shows. I have seen a number of things on the net questioning just how realistic that show is anyway; they apparently like to bring things in just to show off something interesting and then hire an actor to pretend to be the owner. If that is true, I doubt they put a lot of effort in to making sure the estimates are accurate. Whatever makes for good TV is probably the rule.

I'm like you, I very much prefer guns with a dark patina. I like my old guns to actually look old, not all shined up.

Well I have no doubt the folks that appear are the real owners. That would be way over the top to hire actors and I do not believe that is at all true. However what comes tru that door is set up. They deliberatly choose folks who have something interesting, weird, historical, etc. If they did not most of what you would see would be power tools and jewerly since those are the most pawned items. Would be very dull TV. Also a lotta those folks are in there cause they need fast money. Remember...it is in Las Vegas so they will settle pretty quick and get back to the tables. I and others have noted some pretty bad calls by their weapons "experts". We have people on this forum who could do a hell of a lot better job than the Pawn Stars weapons "experts".

I clean my weapons in a normal manner. There are some who are so purist they never even oil or clean. That is not right. Dirt, rust, and grime are not natural and should be, IMO, cleaned off in a normal manner. Now, I did not say buff on a power wheel...just keep stuff looking natural.
 
Dugger said "Well I have no doubt the folks that appear are the real owners. That would be way over the top to hire actors and I do not believe that is at all true."

Believe it. I used to collect Trapdoors and one of the parts dealers in Vegas that I know told me that they called him and asked him to bring in a Trapdoor so they could showcase it on the show. It was the episode where this old gruff guy with a gravely voice brought in a Trapdoor and they "paid" about $1000 more than it was worth. Words from the mouth of the guy who was on the show.

Remember, it is a TV show done for entertainment! Look up the personages on Storage Wars....you'll find them listed as actors.

J.
 
Dugger said "Well I have no doubt the folks that appear are the real owners. That would be way over the top to hire actors and I do not believe that is at all true."

Believe it. I used to collect Trapdoors and one of the parts dealers in Vegas that I know told me that they called him and asked him to bring in a Trapdoor so they could showcase it on the show. It was the episode where this old gruff guy with a gravely voice brought in a Trapdoor and they "paid" about $1000 more than it was worth. Words from the mouth of the guy who was on the show.

Remember, it is a TV show done for entertainment! Look up the personages on Storage Wars....you'll find them listed as actors.

J.

Seems like you know what you are talking about. Are these hired actors however or just people they call who they know have something of interest and ask em to bring it to the show. There is a difference between hiring an actor, handing him a gun outside the shop and pushing him tru the door and bringing on someone deliberatly but who is indeed the true owner. I know what is shown is set-up...but you seem to be saying the folks that appear are just paid actors with no connection to the item they bring in. I dunno, but you understand what I am saying and trying to clarify here. FIE on Pawn Stars if they are just paid actors and have zero connection to what they pawning.
 
You have confused the two shows. Pawn Stars...only...I said the guy who took the Trapdoor into the shop was asked to to do so by the owners of the shop. He owns the Trapdoor. He took it in, they pretended to buy it, he took it back home and put it back in his collection. I never said he was paid for his services. They all know each other and he did it as a favor. It was a set-up to film for entertainment purposes.

J.
 
You have confused the two shows. Pawn Stars...only...I said the guy who took the Trapdoor into the shop was asked to to do so by the owners of the shop. He owns the Trapdoor. He took it in, they pretended to buy it, he took it back home and put it back in his collection. I never said he was paid for his services. They all know each other and he did it as a favor. It was a set-up to film for entertainment purposes.

J.

Clarified. Tks
 
Well I have no doubt the folks that appear are the real owners. That would be way over the top to hire actors and I do not believe that is at all true. However what comes tru that door is set up. They deliberatly choose folks who have something interesting, weird, historical, etc. If they did not most of what you would see would be power tools and jewerly since those are the most pawned items. Would be very dull TV. Also a lotta those folks are in there cause they need fast money. Remember...it is in Las Vegas so they will settle pretty quick and get back to the tables. I and others have noted some pretty bad calls by their weapons "experts". We have people on this forum who could do a hell of a lot better job than the Pawn Stars weapons "experts".

I clean my weapons in a normal manner. There are some who are so purist they never even oil or clean. That is not right. Dirt, rust, and grime are not natural and should be, IMO, cleaned off in a normal manner. Now, I did not say buff on a power wheel...just keep stuff looking natural.
I dont know about that. There is a show in local detroit area called Hardcore Pawn about a pawn shop in Detroits Ghetto. Arguments, fights, protests, and of course every word is deleted. Usually no special items but much more interesting than the Vegas Show.
 
We have to remember all these shows are made for entertainment and there's production personel and camera crews all over the place, you just don't see them. Recently I took a look at a new program showing guys servicing the high wind mills. One segment followed the serviceman climbing up to the structure that holds the prop and gearing. He came up through the trap door huffing and puffing and complaining how hard it was to climb all the way up there and what a difficult job he had. How hard could it be? The cameraman was already up there before him and you never heard a word from him! Maybe the company should have hired the cameraman! Its all just entertainment, folks.

J.
 

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