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[Kathy the history sleuth]

So I wonder how many were captured trying to get down that mountain? Thanks for the map. It clarifies things.

 

[DixieRifles]

So I wonder how many were captured trying to get down that mountain?

If you are referring to Lookout Mountain, here is what I found.

Estimate of Casualties and Missing Reported from different areas of the battle Listed in chronological order of events. Source: Cozzens book. 27 Mississippi - 165 captured as skirmishers along Lookout Creek 24 Mississippi - 150 on slope of mountain 40 Alabama - 200 captured as skirmishers when Moore's right flank was overrun 34 Mississippi - entire regiment captured at mouth of Lookout Creek; less then a dozen escaped 37 Alabama - 17 of Company I fell dead or wounded in an attack near Cravens House

Official Losses of Walthall's Brigade at Battle of Lookout Mountain (excludes casualties of other battles) Source: National Archives Files (Complete list of roster is on Fold3.com) WIA includes all categories: slightly, severly, mortally Est. Strength: 1500 KIA WIA MIA 24th Mississippi -- 20 155 27th Mississippi 6 34 163 29th Mississippi 2 26 155 30th Mississippi -- 7 142 34th Mississippi 2 4 230 Walthall's Brigade - Total 8 91 845 Moore's Brigade - Total -- 39 205 Pettus' Brigade - Total 9 39 9

That first list doesnt include figures from 29th & 30th Mississippi.
Fold3 has a complete casualty list of Walthall's brigade. That is where that table come from.

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

No, I was wondering about Missionary Ridge. It was probably similar. It was rough terrain. I don't have a subscription to Fold 3. Bragg went on to fight Sherman almost all the way to Atlanta, so they must have gotten him out of there at Missionary Ridge sooner. Thanks for providing this.

 

[Sheltowee]

No, I was wondering about Missionary Ridge. It was probably similar. It was rough terrain. I don't have a subscription to Fold 3. Bragg went on to fight Sherman almost all the way to Atlanta, so they must have gotten him out of there at Missionary Ridge sooner. Thanks for providing this.

A brief summary- sure others can provide more information.

Bragg retreated east to Chickamauga Station on the Western and Atlantic RR- and then southward to Dalton.

Cleburne likely saved the army with his rearguard action at Ringgold Gap. Captured figures show somewhere around 4,000 for Missionary Ridge.

Bragg resigned four day after Missionary Ridge- so it was Joe Johnston who resisted to Atlanta.

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

A brief summary- sure others can provide more information.

Bragg retreated east to Chickamauga Station on the Western and Atlantic RR- and then southward to Dalton.

Cleburne likely saved the army with his rearguard action at Ringgold Gap. Captured figures show somewhere around 4,000 for Missionary Ridge.

Bragg resigned four day after Missionary Ridge- so it was Joe Johnston who resisted to Atlanta.

Yes, you are right, thank you! His resignation is no surprise. I just read about the Atlanta campaign and travelled there so it must be too early in the morning for me to be posting (or too late last night, lol>

 

[DixieRifles]

No, I was wondering about Missionary Ridge. It was probably similar. It was rough terrain.

Im not sure as I havent been on Missionary Ridge. I have seen the huge boulders on the west slope of Lookout Mountain. Once the Union line engaged the Confederate line, the Confederates could not fall back.
Two of regiments were strung out along Lookout Creek as skirmishers and were cut off by the massive Union advance. Remember, there was basically 1 brigade— Walthall's— trying to hold back 3 Union Divisions— Cruft, Greary & Osterhaus.

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

Im not sure as I havent been on Missionary Ridge. I have seen the huge boulders on the west slope of Lookout Mountain. Once the Union line engaged the Confederate line, the Confederates could not fall back.
Two of regiments were strung out along Lookout Creek as skirmishers and were cut off by the massive Union advance. Remember, there was basically 1 brigade— Walthall's— trying to hold back 3 Union Divisions— Cruft, Greary & Osterhaus.

Yes, what seemed like a great position in the beginning didn't work out so well in either place. You can stand on Lookout Mtn and Missionary Ridge, or Kennesaw Mtn earlier in my trip and wonder how they got up or down, dragging cannons, in either place. That's something to think about on Memorial Day.

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

Yes, what seemed like a great position in the beginning didn't work out so well in either place. You can stand on Lookout Mtn and Missionary Ridge, or Kennesaw Mtn earlier in my trip and wonder how they got up or down, dragging cannons, in either place. That's something to think about on Memorial Day.

There is signage on Kennesaw Mtn about how they dragged cannons up there.

 

[Sheltowee]

Follow-up. Grant claimed he took a little over 6,000 prisoners. So somewhere between 4,000-6,000

The battle was a rare example of a successful frontal assault on an entrenched, elevated position. But the ridge line was so narrow, it was difficult to shift troops. And, of course, the defensive line was far too thin. Once a breach was established, nothing to do but for them to race down the steep reverse slope.

Here's a neat period photograph.

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

Follow-up. Grant claimed he took a little over 6,000 prisoners. So somewhere between 4,000-6,000

The battle was a rare example of a successful frontal assault on an entrenched, elevated position. But the ridge line was so narrow, it was difficult to shift troops. And, of course, the defensive line was far too thin. Once a breach was established, nothing to do but for them to race down the steep reverse slope.

Here's a neat period photograph.
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Very cool thank you.