Chattanooga goodies

[Kathy the history sleuth]

Norman Dasinger Jr. was gracious enough to spend a few hours showing me some places in Chattanooga I would have never found on my own. I've been to the Chickamauga Battlefield, Missionary Ridge and Lookout Mountain. We revisited some of these sites and also some that were new to me . Read on.
We started out at the Chattanooga National Cemetery, which was in the center of the action. We viewed the monument and graves of the Union soldiers that stole the locomotive The General and were executed and received the Medal of Honor.

Great Locomotive Chase Of 1862: "Andrews' Raid"

The Great Locomotive Chase, also known as Andrews' Raid, was an unsuccessful attempt by Union forces to sabotage Confederate railroads and capture Chattanooga during the Civil War.

www.american-rails.com

retrieved 5/26/23

We then moved on to Brown's Ferry. The American Battlefield Trust has acquired this land where the Union troops floated past the Confederates on Lookout Mountain to establish a pontoon bridge to deliver supplies to the troops that were starving while holding Chattanooga.

The Fight at Brown's Ferry

Civil War History Brief, Brown's Ferry Battle summary

www.battlefields.org

retrieved 5/26/23

The fight continues along the rail line at night, which is of course unusual. Union General John Geary's son is killed near this monument.

Battle of Wauhatchie | Civil War on the Western Border

The Battle of Wauhatchie, a part of the Chattanooga Campaign, ensues as Major General Ulysses S. Grant creates a new supply line from Chattanooga to Brown's Ferry, Tennessee in order to circumvent Confederate General Braxton Bragg's siege of the city.

civilwaronthewesternborder.org

Retrieved 5/27/23

We went up to the Craven House, which was wear the real fighting happened on Lookout Mountain. The guns on top didn't have the correct range to do much.

Cravens House (U.S. National Park Service)

Cravens House is located on the side of Lookout Mountain. It is where some of the most severe action occurred during the Battle of Lookout Mountain on November 24, 1863.

www.nps.gov

Retrieved 5/27/27

From here we went to the top of Missionary Ridge to the Bragg Reservation. We talked about how Bragg and the Confederates must have had to get out of there quick. Lots of Union soldiers were scrambling up. Including Arthur Mc Arthur. The song "On Wisconsin" comes from that day.
Arthur MacArthur | Civil War - Tennessee Vacation

Retrieved 5/27/27

Norman and I said our goodbyes and I thanked him for spending the time on this wonderful tour. I was heading to East TN to visit my kids. Norman recommended Bea's Restaurant so I stopped over before heading out. It was very authentic southern food.

BEA'S RESTAURANT, Chattanooga - Restaurant Reviews, Photos & Phone Number - Tripadvisor

Bea's Restaurant, Chattanooga: See 358 unbiased reviews of Bea's Restaurant, rated 4 of 5 on Tripadvisor and ranked #59 of 801 restaurants in Chattanooga.

www.tripadvisor.com

Retrieved 5/27/27

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

To be continued.....
see above

 

[Sheltowee]

Excellent. Norman hosted a few of us at Chattanooga a couple years ago.
A special experience.

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

To be continued.....

As @lelliott19 said in a post about the Muster tonight, you will meet wonderful people on this forum who are willing to spend their time showing CW sites to those striving to learn. I will post the rest of the photos tomorrow, but nothing beats a knowledgeable guide and an enthusiast that is willing to spend time showing newbies around. This isn't the first time someone from the forum has taken the time to show me around CW sites. I am very grateful for the knowledge and the wonderful folks I have met since joining the Forum.

 

[lelliott19]

Norman Dasinger Jr. was gracious enough to spend a few hours showing me some places in Chattanooga I would have never found on my own.

@Norman Dasinger Jr is an amazing historian, researcher, and interpreter. His presentation style is perfect as far as I'm concerned. I love learning about all the aspects of the places I visit - where were the Confederates? Where were the Federals? What regiments were engaged. Where were they coming from? Where had they been before? How would I "know" them? Who was commanding? How were they related/connected to others who were there? Who lived nearby? if there are civilian accounts, he will also include those in his interpretation. He allows tour participants to ask all the questions they think of. He even takes time to listen to and consider my sometimes unconventional "theories" and weigh in on them. Norman is THE BEST I've ever seen at incorporating accounts from all concerned, biographic info, and stories to provide complete, well-rounded, engaging, and intriguing interpretation. I'm so glad you were able to meet up with him and see the things you wanted to know more about.

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

@Norman Dasinger Jr is an amazing historian, researcher, and interpreter. His presentation style is perfect as far as I'm concerned. I love learning about all the aspects of the places I visit - where were the Confederates? Where were the Federals? What regiments were engaged. Where were they coming from? Where had they been before? How would I "know" them? Who was commanding? How were they related/connected to others who were there? Who lived nearby? if there are civilian accounts, he will also include those in his interpretation. He allows tour participants to ask all the questions they think of. He even takes time to listen to and consider my sometimes unconventional "theories" and weigh in on them. Norman is THE BEST I've ever seen at incorporating accounts from all concerned, biographic info, and stories to provide complete, well-rounded, engaging, and intriguing interpretation. I'm so glad you were able to meet up with him and see the things you wanted to know more about.

You bet! His interpretation was interesting and excellent. You can read books but at the end of the day nothing beats a skilled presenter and historian on the spot. I had never heard much about the Battle of Wauhatchie. And there we were!

 

[redbob]

It looks like a great trip and down South, Cardiologists love to see that kind of meal as it helps them make their boat payments.

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

It looks like a great trip and down South, Cardiologists love to see that kind of meal as it helps them make their boat payments.

Yes, I have a cardiologist. I sent back everything except what you see here and only ate a little. I also got unsweet tea. I have trouble getting that in the South sometimes, lol.

 

[KianGaf]

Really enjoyed my overnight in Chattanooga a few years back. I only got to scratch the surface of the place. The view from the top of the incline railway was amazing.

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

Really enjoyed my overnight in Chattanooga a few years back. I only got to scratch the surface of the place. The view from the top of the incline railway was amazing.

Yes, it's often on my way to TN so I plan to go back many times. Lots to see there. The more you know the more you want to know.

 

[KianGaf]

Definitely worth a stop with that view.

 

[DixieRifles]

We went up to the Craven House, which was wear the real fighting happened on Lookout Mountain. The guns on top didn't have the correct range to do much.

Great photos.
You posted 2 photos that followed the 2 images the Illinois Monument at Cravens House. At first I thought it was a bridge. Where is that taken and which direction were you looking? It can't be there at the Cravens House---maybe a little further down the road.

 

[stu613]

Great photos.
You posted 2 photos that followed the 2 images the Illinois Monument at Cravens House. At first I thought it was a bridge. Where is that taken and which direction were you looking? It can't be there at the Cravens House---maybe a little further down the road.

Steve, I believe those were taken at Bragg Reservation(including the Illinois monument) not Cravens house. The photos are looking north (across I-24 which is in the cut below the bridge) along Missionary Ridge.The bridge you refer to is the road going from Bragg Reservation going north along the top of Missionary Ridge. The Bragg Reservation was one of the best along the ridge as far as I was concerned. Kathy, correct me if I am wrong, it has been 3 years since I was there.

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

Great photos.
You posted 2 photos that followed the 2 images the Illinois Monument at Cravens House. At first I thought it was a bridge. Where is that taken and which direction were you looking? It can't be there at the Cravens House---maybe a little further down the road.

Hi Steve,
We spent quite a bit of time up at the Bragg Reservation looking out where they built the expressway in the 60s. We figured that's how the Confederates got out of there. I'm not sure what direction that was looking.

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

Steve, I believe those were taken at Bragg Reservation(including the Illinois monument) not Cravens house. The photos are looking north (across I-24 which is in the cut below the bridge) along Missionary Ridge.The bridge you refer to is the road going from Bragg Reservation going north along the top of Missionary Ridge. The Bragg Reservation was one of the best along the ridge as far as I was concerned. Kathy, correct me if I am wrong, it has been 3 years since I was there.

Yep, you are correct. We were standing there talking about what the situation would have been. Bragg was up there during most of the actions around him, far from Craven House where a fierce battle took place. But it put him where the Yankees were coming up and I was wondering how he got out of there!

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

Great photos.
You posted 2 photos that followed the 2 images the Illinois Monument at Cravens House. At first I thought it was a bridge. Where is that taken and which direction were you looking? It can't be there at the Cravens House---maybe a little further down the road.

Steve I moved the captions around. It was confusing, sorry about that.

 

[DixieRifles]

We spent quite a bit of time up at the Bragg Reservation looking out where they built the expressway in the 60s. We figured that's how the Confederates got out of there. I'm not sure what direction that was looking.

Well, I didn't know what the Bragg Reservation was. Anything like the Choctaw Reservation??

I have been to Lookout Mountain several times. Most of the fighting was at the Cravens House but most of the Rebs were likely captured on the West slope of Lookout Mountain. My Gr-Grandfather and two 2XGr-Uncles from the same regiment in Walthall's brigade was captured there.

Maybe this Google Map will help.

Don't be confused by this map as it has a label for "Monument to the 97 Ohio". But that is not the tall column in your photos. That one was for an Illinois regiment.

That was the reason I asked because there is a monument next to the Cravens House that is labeled on Google Map as New York State Monument. I thought that was the monument you posted. The New York monument is not nearly as elaborate at the 97th Ohio monument.

Here is a Google Map street view that matches your photo. The straight road between the grass park the row of buildings in the above map is Crest Place. That road going into the woods is S. Crest Road that circles the park and meets Sheridan Rd and continues almost North(just a few degrees off) at a very steep incline.

Now I've got it straight.

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

Well, I didn't know what the Bragg Reservation was. Anything like the Choctaw Reservation??

I have been to Lookout Mountain several times. Most of the fighting was at the Cravens House but most of the Rebs were likely captured on the West slope of Lookout Mountain. My Gr-Grandfather and two 2XGr-Uncles from the same regiment in Walthall's brigade was captured there.

Maybe this Google Map will help.

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Don't be confused by this map as it has a label for "Monument to the 97 Ohio". But that is not the tall column in your photos. That one was for an Illinois regiment.

That was the reason I asked because there is a monument next to the Cravens House that is labeled on Google Map as New York State Monument. I thought that was the monument you posted. The New York monument is not nearly as elaborate at the 97th Ohio monument.

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Here is a Google Map street view that matches your photo. The straight road between the grass park the row of buildings in the above map is Crest Place. That road going into the woods is S. Crest Road that circles the park and meets Sheridan Rd and continues almost North(just a few degrees off) at a very steep incline.

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Now I've got it straight.

I didn't take any pictures of the New York Monument, but here are some from the area of the Craven House area from another visit.

 

[Kathy the history sleuth]

I wondered about the term "reservation" too. I think it means the land was put aside by the National Park Service. While we were up there we talked about how Bragg was up there kind of in the center of all his armies but removed. i was wondering how he and his troops got down off of there with the Yankees coming. We thought it was down the Northern Slope where the freeways are now. What do you think?

 

[Sheltowee]

I wondered about the term "reservation" too. I think it means the land was put aside by the National Park Service. While we were up there we talked about how Bragg was up there kind of in the center of all his armies but removed. i was wondering how he and his troops got down off of there with the Yankees coming. We thought it was down the Northern Slope where the freeways are now. What do you think?

Appears they withdrew eastward. Right?