Boy or Girl?

[Aussie Billy Sherman]

I honestly have no idea. Could go either way

 

[Northern Light]

The style is similar, but this one is definitely period. The other, I'm not so sure.

It looks too shiny or something.

 

[Virginian Sharpshooter]

My Male intuition tells me she is a Girl - I would be disappointed or rather shocked if she turned out to be a Boy !

 

[MRB1863]

My Male intuition tells me she is a Girl - I would be disappointed or rather shocked if she turned out to be a Boy !

I agree! She looks too soft and expressive in a sort of way to be a male...

 

[7thWisconsin]

Im gonna say she's a girl. How about an unidentified vivandiere?

 

[donna]

I say girl but possibility it is a boy. Whatever, very attractive young person. Has such fine features.

 

[TerryB]

It looks too shiny or something.

Yes, like an imitation of period style to be sold in gift shops.

 

[Rebel Rally Point]

I'll guess it's a girl... maybe a Vivandière of some sort?

 

[RebelHeart]

Do the crossed sabers bother anyone? I thought those were postwar. [edit] I did some checking and the hat insignia could be ACW, but upside down?

Ha Ha! The first thing I noticed was the crossed-sabers pin being upside-down!

My guess is a boy, perhaps a drummer. He looks young but the hands look a little more developed like a drummer would probably have. The picture kind-of looks like someone dressed him whatever available materials were available in the studio or something.

 

[Billy1977]

I'm guessing woman.

"People tend to notice things like jaw shape, but the real tell of a female face is the forehead. Testosterone makes foreheads square and prominent, while women's are more rounded. Hers appears feminine to me, while this guy's face, equally delicate, has a completely different, male set of the eyes and forehead."

I agree. Look at the supraorbital ridge, it's very "non-pronounced" if that's a term. By that I mean it doesn't stick out hardly at all which makes me think female. Men tend to have really pronounced supraorbital ridges (myself included). Also as someone else noticed, the eyebrows look more "thin", less hairy and bushy than a man's.

 

[Jackson Hornets]

As a feminine-looking young lad i'm casting my vote for boy.

 

[Banjo Pete]

Christina Ricci in "The Lizzy Borden Diaries" ? Yes, that was actually a thing...

 

[Forrest]

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That's a tough one. It looks like a woman, but that might just be my 21st century mindset, and the fact that he/she reminds me of Sigourney Weaver. I don't think the face is too effeminate, the shoulders too narrow or the hands to large for a man. The hair, on the other hand, looks more like a man than a woman (to me).

 

[Karen Lips]

I'm also bothered by the frame. It looks modern to me, like a gift shop item from the Centennial. But I haven't seen enough examples of either type to really be sure.

I agree with you. This does look like something from the Centennial period. Her hair looks like a 1960's style. I suspect this girl had her picture made in this uniform at some gift shop at a Civil War museum during the 1960's. Photography can be well done to look like authentic photos of times gone by. My sister and her family had such a picture made at a museum gift shop I think at Gettysburg. It looks really authentic except for my sister and her daughter's eye make up.

 

[Forrest]

I agree with you. This does look like something from the Centennial period. Her hair looks like a 1960's style.

Identification of the mat is stamped along the right edge - just need a reasonable scan to make the determination as to authenticity (but I could not find it in Nolan's book).

 

[Private Watkins]

Here's another example of the same mat... this also a ninth plate. I don't know that I can prove legitimacy one way or the other so each will have to make up their own mind about what to think of the mat...

 

[Forrest]

Personally, I think the mat is period, but a scan of that right edge would give you a definitive answer. Is this your photo? If so, just take a look and let us know what you find.

 

[Arioch]

'Goyle'

My first unexplainable-Barney Rubble-of-a-cave-man, instinct….says: 'Goyle'

….that,…and…I think I see an earring in her left ear….

 

[Private Watkins]

Personally, I think the mat is period, but a scan of that right edge would give you a definitive answer. Is this your photo? If so, just take a look and let us know what you find.

It's not mine... wish it was though. A dealer who I consider very reputable had it listed, but by the time I contacted him it was already sold. He thought everthing looked legit, mat included, which type he said he's seen before although not frequently.

The second image above with the same type mat is listed by a different dealer, one that I also hold in very high regard for integrity & expertise.

 

[Northern Light]

Here's another example of the same mat... this also a ninth plate. I don't know that I can prove legitimacy one way or the other so each will have to make up their own mind about what to think of the mat...
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That one is definitely a guy!