Battenburg Cake

[Schwallanscher]

Trivia rumor: Battenburg lace (an American lace) was first created when Queen Victoria of England named her son-in-law as the first Duke of Battenburg in the late 1800s.

battenberg - there is no house of battenburg, never was and never will be

 

[Belle Montgomery]

battenberg - there is no house of battenburg, never was and never will be

Hmmmm... explain this please:

The Battenberg family was formally a branch of the House of Hesse-Darmstadt, rulers of the Grand Duchy of Hesse in Germany. The first member was Julia Hauke, whose brother-in-law Grand Duke Louis III of Hesse created her Countess of Battenberg
Princess Julia of Battenberg (1825–1895)

• Princess Marie of Battenberg (1852–1923), married the Prince of Erbach-Schönberg in 1871
• Prince Louis of Battenberg (1854–1921), renounced his title in 1917 to become Marquess of Milford Haven — married Princess Victoria of Hesse and by Rhine, daughter of Louis IV, Grand Duke of Hesse and Alice of the United Kingdom
  • Princess Alice of Battenberg (1885–1969), married Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark in 1903
  • Princess Louise of Battenberg (1889–1965), renounced her title in 1917 to become Lady Louise Mountbatten, married the future Gustaf VI Adolf of Sweden in 1923
  • Prince George of Battenberg (1892–1938), renounced his title in 1917 to become Earl of Medina (later Marquess of Milford Haven)
  • Prince Louis of Battenberg (1900–1979), renounced his title in 1917 to become Lord Louis Mountbatten (later Earl Mountbatten of Burma)
• Prince Alexander of Battenberg (1857–1893), became Prince of Bulgaria in 1879 (later Count of Hartenau)
  • Asen of Hartenau (1890–1965)
  • Tsvetana of Hartenau (1893–1935)
• Prince Henry of Battenberg (1858–1896) — married Princess Beatrice of the United Kingdom, daughter of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert
  • Prince Alexander of Battenberg (1886–1960), renounced his title in 1917 to become Marquess of Carisbrooke
  • Princess Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg (1887–1969), married Alfonso XIII of Spain in 1906
  • Prince Leopold of Battenberg (1889–1922), renounced his title in 1917 to become Lord Leopold Mountbatten
  • Prince Maurice of Battenberg (1891–1914)
• Prince Francis Joseph of Battenberg (1861–1924), married Princess Anna of Montenegro

 

[Schwallanscher]

Hmmmm... explain this please:

The Battenberg family was formally a branch of the House of Hesse-Darmstadt, rulers of the Grand Duchy of Hesse in Germany. The first member was Julia Hauke, whose brother-in-law Grand Duke Louis III of Hesse created her Countess of Battenberg
Princess Julia of Battenberg (1825–1895)

• Princess Marie of Battenberg (1852–1923), married the Prince of Erbach-Schönberg in 1871
• Prince Louis of Battenberg (1854–1921), renounced his title in 1917 to become Marquess of Milford Haven — married Princess Victoria of Hesse and by Rhine, daughter of Louis IV, Grand Duke of Hesse and Alice of the United Kingdom
  • Princess Alice of Battenberg (1885–1969), married Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark in 1903
  • Princess Louise of Battenberg (1889–1965), renounced her title in 1917 to become Lady Louise Mountbatten, married the future Gustaf VI Adolf of Sweden in 1923
  • Prince George of Battenberg (1892–1938), renounced his title in 1917 to become Earl of Medina (later Marquess of Milford Haven)
  • Prince Louis of Battenberg (1900–1979), renounced his title in 1917 to become Lord Louis Mountbatten (later Earl Mountbatten of Burma)
• Prince Alexander of Battenberg (1857–1893), became Prince of Bulgaria in 1879 (later Count of Hartenau)
  • Asen of Hartenau (1890–1965)
  • Tsvetana of Hartenau (1893–1935)
• Prince Henry of Battenberg (1858–1896) — married Princess Beatrice of the United Kingdom, daughter of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert
  • Prince Alexander of Battenberg (1886–1960), renounced his title in 1917 to become Marquess of Carisbrooke
  • Princess Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg (1887–1969), married Alfonso XIII of Spain in 1906
  • Prince Leopold of Battenberg (1889–1922), renounced his title in 1917 to become Lord Leopold Mountbatten
  • Prince Maurice of Battenberg (1891–1914)
• Prince Francis Joseph of Battenberg (1861–1924), married Princess Anna of Montenegro

easy: they are all batten bErg not one is battenbUrg

 

[Belle Montgomery]

easy: they are all batten bErg not one is battenbUrg

LOL! It's ALL THE SAME! Depends on interrupter! Just like ECG OR EKG (German derivative) I see you've never done any genealogy either. BOTH are used...

 

[Belle Montgomery]

easy: they are all batten bErg not one is battenbUrg

Battenberg or Battenburg is a light sponge cake with the pieces covered in jam. The cake is covered in marzipan and, when cut in cross section, displays a distinctive two-by-two check pattern alternately coloured pink and yellow (which also gave its name to Battenburg markings).

 

[Schwallanscher]

LOL! It's ALL THE SAME! Depends on interrupter! Just like ECG OR EKG (German derivative) I see you've never done any genealogy either. BOTH are used...
IE:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/recipes/battenberg-cake/15825/?utm_term=.544c9228d649
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1120657/battenberg-cake
I could go on and on

call the cake whatever you like (btw your links spell it both with an E) but call the family by their proper name andf the families name is battenberg. ECG/EKG is totally unrelated as cardio/kardio are foreign spellings of a latin word

Trivia rumor: Battenburg lace (an American lace) was first created when Queen Victoria of England named her son-in-law as the first Duke of Battenburg in the late 1800s.

emphasis mine

edit to correct: kardio is greek obviously

 

[Belle Montgomery]

call the cake whatever you like (btw your links spell it both with an E) but call the family by their proper name andf the families name is battenberg. ECG/EKG is totally unrelated as cardio/kardio are foreign spellings of a latin word


emphasis mine

The Battenburg markings were named after the cake which was named after the royal wedding. So many European languages and their spellings evolved as well as foreign interpretation ...thus the cardiology reference from the Americanized version from the German/Polish etc. (kardiogram) was only an example of that. BOTH spellings are used regarding the royal family AND the lace name. Just like whilst and while are the same meaning depending where you're from.

http://www.goodtoknow.co.uk/recipes/130610/Battenburg-cake

 

[Schwallanscher]

the house of battenberg was dead from 13xx to 1845 (i think) when it was resurrected to have a name for the morganatic children of the großherzog von hessen (grandduke of hesse). some british dudes probably tried to pronounce battenberg correctly, screwed it up and thus the spelling battenburg retroactively came into existence. but for the cake only the royal household knew how to spell that name correctly.

... and please refrain from lecturing me about my language

 

[Belle Montgomery]

the house of battenberg was dead from 13xx to 1845 (i think) when it was resurrected to have a name for the morganatic children of the großherzog von hessen (grandduke of hesse). some british dudes probably tried to pronounce battenberg correctly, screwed it up and thus the spelling battenburg retroactively came into existence. but for the cake only the royal household knew how to spell that name correctly.

... and please refrain from lecturing me about my language

Then don't try to lecture me about those who changed the name because that was how they interpreted and spell it! This post itself has a U in the name and research claims it was made after the Victoria's granddaughter's wedding...as well as the lace. Wikipedia uses BERG and there's an actual BatternBURG Lace Company. Betty Crocker, Cake Boss and others refer to at as a "checkerboard" cake and guess what-everyone is correct!
Besides...YOU brought the spelling up- not me!

 

[Schwallanscher]

Then don't try to lecture me about those who changed the name because that was how they interpreted and spell it! This post itself has a U in the name and research claims it was made after the Victoria's granddaughter's wedding...as well as the lace. Wikipedia uses BERG and there's an actual BatternBURG Lace Company. Betty Crocker, Cake Boss and others refer to at as a "checkerboard" cake and guess what-everyone is correct!
Besides...YOU brought the spelling up- not me!

you know - just forget it

 

[Belle Montgomery]

you know - just forget it

Absolutely...have a nice evening...no matter how we spell our own names!

 

[Southern Unionist]

English spelling was not standardized during that time period. Spelling on old documents proves nothing.

 

[Schwallanscher]

English spelling was not standardized during that time period. Spelling on old documents proves nothing.

battenberg is not english but german so english spelling is not really relevant here. also berg and burg are not alternative spellings, they are different words which have a different meaning berg being a mountain or hill while burg being a castle - quite often located on a burgberg (which is a berg with a burg on top)

 

[Eleanor Rose]

battenberg is not english but german so english spelling is not really relevant here. also berg and burg are not alternative spellings, they are different words which have a different meaning berg being a mountain or hill while burg being a castle - quite often located on a burgberg (which is a berg with a burg on top)

This is really interesting to me. It got me looking back at recipes for this cake to check the spelling.



The above image is from Frederick Vine's book, Saleable Shop Goods published in 1898. Vine, a London baker, was supposedly one of the most respected professional bakers and confectioners of his day and he spelled the cake with a "burg." Could Battenburg with a 'u', rather than as Battenberg, be a contemporary practice? This 19th century English spelling appears to be used in all of the earliest recipes for this cake.

I have also been unable to find any contemporary accounts that confirm this cake was invented to honor the 1884 royal wedding. This fact could certainly be true and based on a folk memory, but it doesn't appear to be documented (and sourced) in any written records. There is also a theory that the four sections of the cake originally represented the four Battenberg princes - Louis himself and his brothers Alexander, Franz-Joseph and Henry. The problem with this story is that the earliest recipes for this kind of Battenburg or Battenberg Cake all call for nine squares and not the four that are found in modern versions.

It seems this cake is a mystery in a lot of ways.

 

[Schwallanscher]

This is really interesting to me. It got me looking back at recipes for this cake to check the spelling.



The above image is from Frederick Vine's book, Saleable Shop Goods published in 1898. Vine, a London baker, was supposedly one of the most respected professional bakers and confectioners of his day and he spelled the cake with a "burg." Could Battenburg with a 'u', rather than as Battenberg, be a contemporary practice? This 19th century English spelling appears to be used in all of the earliest recipes for this cake.

I have also been unable to find any contemporary accounts that confirm this cake was invented to honor the 1884 royal wedding. This fact could certainly be true and based on a folk memory, but it doesn't appear to be documented (and sourced) in any written records. There is also a theory that the four sections of the cake originally represented the four Battenberg princes - Louis himself and his brothers Alexander, Franz-Joseph and Henry. The problem with this story is that the earliest recipes for this kind of Battenburg or Battenberg Cake all call for nine squares and not the four that are found in modern versions.

It seems this cake is a mystery in a lot of ways.

as i s said, call the cake whatever you like (battenborg if you please) but get the spelling of the family's name correct, please - however, i have to say if were to be honoured with a cake i kinda expected them to spell my name correctly

battenberg/burg - cake
battenberg/burg - lace
battenberg/burg - markings
battenberg/burg - whatever

but, the house of battenberg

... i never said it differently

 

[Eleanor Rose]

i have to say if were to be honoured with a cake i kinda expected them to spell my name correctly

That's for sure!

 

[LoriAnn]

but, the house of battenberg

... i never said it differently

For what it's worth, I get what you're saying.

Does anyone know if a Battenburger exists?

 

[Schwallanscher]

For what it's worth, I get what you're saying.

Does anyone know if a Battenburger exists?

 

[Bee]

If I am lucky enough to have this cake offered to me, I will say, spell, eat it any way they prepare it, as long as I can have seconds!

 

[Eleanor Rose]

If I am lucky enough to have this cake offered to me, I will say, spell, eat it any way they prepare it, as long as I can have seconds!

You and me both!