MD Armistead family plot

[klongstreet]

Finally gained entrance to St Paul's Churchyard in Baltimore

 

[klongstreet]

Just forgot to add that this has now been removed from outside the gates

 

[Bentonville]

Armistead gets a bad rap I think. Comments about sobriety in a time when 'a drink' was two tumblers.

He hit Jubal Early with a plate at West Point.

Never forget.

 

[JerryD]

Little fun fact about Old St. Paul's Cemetery. Right down the street is the original building for the University of Maryland Medical School, the fifth oldest medical school in the US, established in 1807. When the school was established it was illegal to dissect human bodies. The legend goes that it was no accident that the school was located right down the road from St. Paul's and the fresh source of corpses therein. University of Maryland would hire grave robbers to procure dead bodies for the students to work on. Its assumed St. Paul's was a major source of supply for the school.

 

[Bentonville]

There was a slave, then former slave who rustled up fresh Ines for the teaching hospital. People gave him total respect.

But he was fond of the macabre joke.

 

[Marco 1975]

Armistead gets a bad rap I think. Comments about sobriety in a time when 'a drink' was two tumblers.

He hit Jubal Early with a plate at West Point.

Never forget.

I have seen a book review about the friendship of Armistead and Hancock, it was " a little " different to what was seen at the movie " Gettysburg ". The book was written by Tom McMillan, he also writes about the Jubal Early Story at West Point.
He writes that noone knows why he had to leave West Point because there was a fire there before the Civil War and all the documents were destroyed and the Jubal Early Story was created in the confederate army. I don't know much about it but I will see if I find more

 

[Bentonville]

I have seen a book review about the friendship of Armistead and Hancock, it was " a little " different to what was seen at the movie " Gettysburg ". The book was written by Tom McMillan, he also writes about the Jubal Early Story at West Point.
He writes that noone knows why he had to leave West Point because there was a fire there before the Civil War and all the documents were destroyed and the Jubal Early Story was created in the confederate army. I don't know much about it but I will see if I find more

Thank you. Armistead and Hancock in the Gettysburg film made uneasy. The idea seemed right but was totally over the top.

Aw. I really like the Early story too. Makes me wonder if Armistead leaving wasn't based on something else.

What McMillan have to say about Armistead's drinking? This all new information to me.

 

[nc native]

I never knew Lewis Armistead's father was in command of Fort McHenry during the British bombardment in the War of 1812. I see the woke have struck again by removing the memorial plaque outside the gates of the cemetery.

 

[Library Lady]

I never knew Lewis Armistead's father was in command of Fort McHenry during the British bombardment in the War of 1812.

Wasn't that mentioned in Gettysburg? I think Longstreet was answering some question from Colonel Freemantle by giving him some history on some of his (Longstreet's) officers. I didn't know it until then, either.

 

[peacefulanimalguy7]

I never knew Lewis Armistead's father was in command of Fort McHenry during the British bombardment in the War of 1812.

That's actually his uncle George

 

[hoosier]

I never knew Lewis Armistead's father was in command of Fort McHenry during the British bombardment in the War of 1812. I see the woke have struck again by removing the memorial plaque outside the gates of the cemetery.

The original poster did not report on when or for what reason the plaque was removed.

I wonder if the reason could have been because the plaque contained a factual error in stating that men under Armistead's command advanced the farthest north of any Southern troops.

Troops under Albert Jenkins' command advanced as far as Sporting Hill, about 35 miles farther north than Gettysburg.

 

[Marco 1975]

Thank you. Armistead and Hancock in the Gettysburg film made uneasy. The idea seemed right but was totally over the top.

Aw. I really like the Early story too. Makes me wonder if Armistead leaving wasn't based on something else.

What McMillan have to say about Armistead's drinking? This all new information to me.

Thank you. Armistead and Hancock in the Gettysburg film made uneasy. The idea seemed right but was totally over the top.

Aw. I really like the Early story too. Makes me wonder if Armistead leaving wasn't based on something else.

What McMillan have to say about Armistead's drinking? This all new information to me.

I haven't read the book, I can't remember hear him speaking about Alcohol. Some sources say that he had problems with his studies and had to leave West Point for that. But with all the Documents destroyed at the Academy it's everything just " what someone knows " . You find that on YouTube, sorry, I have no idea how to share

 

[Bentonville]

I haven't read the book, I can't remember hear him speaking about Alcohol. Some sources say that he had problems with his studies and had to leave West Point for that. But with all the Documents destroyed at the Academy it's everything just " what someone knows " . You find that on YouTube, sorry, I have no idea how to share

Thanks. All new information on.me.

 

[peacefulanimalguy7]

The original poster did not report on when or for what reason the plaque was removed.

Likely for political reasons, like many other Confederate monuments

 

[Marco 1975]

Wasn't that mentioned in Gettysburg? I think Longstreet was answering some question from Colonel Freemantle by giving him some history on some of his (Longstreet's) officers. I didn't know it until then, either.

I think it was Armistead himself, tell Freemantle the background of some of his soldiers. General Kemper told Freemantle that Armistead is from a famous military family. In the movie. Have seen it yesterday randomly, otherwise I couldn't remember...

 

[rpkennedy]

That's actually his uncle George

George Armistead and Walker Keith Armistead (Lewis' father) were 2 of 5 brothers who served in the War of 1812. Walker was a lt. colonel during the war and commanded the forces of the Chesapeake Bay. Eventually, he rose to the rank of brevet brigadier general, was the Chief of Engineers in the US Army, commanded the 3rd Artillery, and commanded the army during the Second Seminole War.

Ryan

 

[rpkennedy]

I haven't read the book, I can't remember hear him speaking about Alcohol. Some sources say that he had problems with his studies and had to leave West Point for that. But with all the Documents destroyed at the Academy it's everything just " what someone knows " . You find that on YouTube, sorry, I have no idea how to share

My understanding is that Armistead was a sub-par student. He was dismissed during his first year (1833), was readmitted the next year but had to repeat his classes due to deficiencies (1834), and then resigned in 1836 (or was dismissed, depending on the source). It didn't matter because he was directly commissioned as a 2nd lt. at the same time as his classmates (possibly because of his family's reputation).

Ryan

 

[Marco 1975]

My understanding is that Armistead was a sub-par student. He was dismissed during his first year (1833), was readmitted the next year but had to repeat his classes due to deficiencies (1834), and then resigned in 1836 (or was dismissed, depending on the source). It didn't matter because he was directly commissioned as a 2nd lt. at the same time as his classmates (possibly because of his family's reputation).

Ryan

I think so too. He had resigned, because if he had waited until they dismissed him he had no more real chance in the army. By resigning he can take the way you discribe

 

[klongstreet]

The original poster did not report on when or for what reason the plaque was removed.

I wonder if the reason could have been because the plaque contained a factual error in stating that men under Armistead's command advanced the farthest north of any Southern troops.

Troops under Albert Jenkins' command advanced as far as Sporting Hill, about 35 miles farther north than Gettysburg.

I am visiting from England so have no idea why the plaque was removed, it was there on my last visit 4 years ago, i shouldn't think it was the factual error, if so why wait 160 years or so to remove it. The less people who know about his grave the less people will visit and therbye give the city a reason to move the graves and free up the land, is my thought.

With respect
Keith

 

[rpkennedy]

Troops under Albert Jenkins' command advanced as far as Sporting Hill, about 35 miles farther north than Gettysburg.

There is also the possibility that a reconnaissance from Carlisle went north of town towards Sterrett's Gap and, if so, that is even further north than Sporting Hill. There is a historical marker there but the evidence is a little thin.

Ryan