Another scam on ebay.

[Salterr]

I have a good eye for fake currency and I even knew that this serial number was a fake right off.

But man, even a blind person can tell this is a fake print job lol

I reported it, and here is the sellers username. Of course no sales or anything.

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It blows my mind every time how many bids go to fake items and the real items just sit and sit.

 

[SethJ]

It blows my mind every time how many bids go to fake items and the real items just sit and sit.

Welcome to the art of (if I'm getting the name right-) shill bidding! The art of your own (or "friends") bidding to raise the price of something at an auction.
Needless to say, I do believe this practice is illegal.
Will it stop these numbskulls...

No.

 

[bayonet]

Welcome to the art of (if I'm getting the name right-) shill bidding! The art of your own (or "friends") bidding to raise the price of something at an auction.
Needless to say, I do believe this practice is illegal.
Will it stop these numbskulls...

No.

Yes if you ever go to a live auction (regardless of what the company is auctioning off) look for the guy in the back of the room always raising his hand to increase the bid amount. He will most likely have no auction paperwork in his hands like the rest of the bidders. If he wins the bid it simply means that the bidding did not go high enough for them to release the item.

 

[rocktron21]

I agree that I had seen the serial number in reference to counterfeits, but how can you tell it's a counterfeit that's worth nothing and not one of the Cuban counterfeits mentioned earlier in this chain (maybe that was a joke I didn't pick up on) that actually is worth something (i.e. that I'm guessing was actually used to water down the money supply)? This was actually passed down to me and that's why I'm wondering. Thanks!

 

[Pollaco]

Havana Counterfeits, Samuel Upham's facsimilies,or Comtemporay Counterfeits are of some interest to a handful of collectors. They were part of the story of Confederate Currency. Some even have the designation of CT (counterfeit) while the real notes carry the T (type). Modern day replicas, souvenirs, or reproductions however are not of much interest to collectors because they really played no part in "history". Just someone trying to make a buck.

 

[MRB1863]

Great illustration for "Caveat Emptor". Thanks for shouting this seller out.

 

[Pollaco]

According to the Hobby Act of 1973 modern day reproductions of Confederate or State Currency (and other imitation items) should have the word "Copy" printed on it. Apparently yours is pre 1973.

 

[Cornpone and Molasses]

One thing these scammers always do is ask for a large amount and then tack on 5-10 bucks for shipping. It's every single time and it's laughable!

 

[Bur Oak]

I agree that I had seen the serial number in reference to counterfeits, but how can you tell it's a counterfeit that's worth nothing and not one of the Cuban counterfeits mentioned earlier in this chain (maybe that was a joke I didn't pick up on) that actually is worth something (i.e. that I'm guessing was actually used to water down the money supply)? This was actually passed down to me and that's why I'm wondering. Thanks!

The note you posted in #18 is recognizable as a more modern reproduction for several reasons apart from the serial number. The detail of the engraving on this reproduction is crude in comparison to both the genuine notes and the "Havana" counterfeits. Perhaps the best clue, however, is the back. Genuine notes of this type were printed on one side only. The back of these reproductions is entirely bogus.

Below is a genuine note for comparison.

As for the contemporaneous counterfeits, Tremmel, the author of A Guide Book of Counterfeit Confederate Currency (2007), writes that "Only five examples are known." He also states that the black printing on the counterfeits is the same as the genuine notes, and surmises that the lithographic stone used by the counterfeiters was produced using stolen genuine transfer papers. The red overprint, however, is recognizably different.

 

[Pollaco]

I agree that I had seen the serial number in reference to counterfeits, but how can you tell it's a counterfeit that's worth nothing and not one of the Cuban counterfeits mentioned earlier in this chain (maybe that was a joke I didn't pick up on) that actually is worth something (i.e. that I'm guessing was actually used to water down the money supply)? This was actually passed down to me and that's why I'm wondering. Thanks!

The mention of Cuban counterfeits was not intended as a joke. There really are counterfeits (CTs) of the T64, T65, and the T66 that were produced in Havana and then smuggled into the Confederacy by way of Mobile. The T65 or $100.00/Lucy Pickens seems to get the most mention and is referred to as the Havana Counterfeit but I think there were 3 different ones.One of the oddities of that particular bill is that it is about 1/4 shorter than the original.Which is strange in itself because I read that some varieties of the originals are different sizes.Minor variations, they're called.

 

[Bur Oak]

One thing these scammers always do is ask for a large amount and then tack on 5-10 bucks for shipping. It's every single time and it's laughable!

There are some who honestly don't know they have fakes. I've sent messages to many, and quite a few have removed the listings. Not all. Fortunately, most of the people who are willing to spend big bucks on currency are either knowledgeable or adequately suspicious, and the fakes with high prices rarely if ever sell. It seems most newbies are skittish when it comes to paying high prices for unfamiliar currency.