Another Photo Identified.

Robert Gray

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Washington, D.C., vicinity. Seven officers by a big gun in a fort.

No further identification is available, but there is a clue. The two officers near the breech of the gun have the number "22" on their hats. The only artillery unit this could refer to is the 22nd Independent Battery New York Light Artillery.

This battery was organized at Lockport and was mustered into the U.S. service October 28, 1862 at Elmira, for three years. Commanded by Capt. John D. Numan, it left the State November 23, 1862 for garrison duty in the Defenses of Washington, D.C. On February 5, 1863 it was assigned to the 9th New York Heavy Artillery as Company M. This regiment remained in Washington during which time it built and garrisoned Forts Mansfield, Bayard, Gaines and Foote. On May 18, 1864 it was relieved from garrison duty and ordered to join the Army of the Potomac in the field. Companies from the 9th New York participated in Sheridan's Shenandoah Valley Campaign and served with Grant to the surrender at Appomattox Court House. Returning to Washington it was honorably discharged and mustered out July 6, 1865.

The regiment sustained a total loss by death during service of 453, of whom 7 officers and 196 men were killed and mortally wounded; 4 officers and 246 men died of disease and other causes, including 41 who died in Confederate prisons. Its total of killed and wounded amounted to 824, and it was one of the nine heavy artillery regiments in the war whose loss in killed exceeded 200.

Sources:
A Compendium of the War of the Rebellion, by Frederick H. Dyer.
New York in the War of the Rebellion, 22nd ed. by Frederick Phisterer.

Photo credits:
Library of Congress (LC-DIG-cwpb-04296)
MOLLUS Collection, Volume 36, Page 1800.

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I count one light artillery sword, one cavalry sword and four foot officer's swords. I can't tell if the artillery sword or cavalry sword are officer models. Officers bought their own swords but I don't think state troops had to obey regulations.
 
Neither the 22nd nor 9th New York Heavy Artillery garrisoned Fort Totten. 32-pounder guns on barbette carriages were used in several forts in the Washington defenses.
They could have been visiting the fort. The 9th constructed a number of DC forts; perhaps they visited other area forts to study their construction, or to visit other units. The photo I posted was shot at the same spot as another image that shows a completely different group posing around the same gun.

The retaining wall in front of the guns - three horizontal boards with grass growing above - I haven't seen in photos of other forts defending Washington.

Miles Hai
seeingthecivilwar.com
 
They could have been visiting the fort. The 9th constructed a number of DC forts; perhaps they visited other area forts to study their construction, or to visit other units. The photo I posted was shot at the same spot as another image that shows a completely different group posing around the same gun.

The retaining wall in front of the guns - three horizontal boards with grass growing above - I haven't seen in photos of other forts defending Washington.

Miles Hai
seeingthecivilwar.com
To what other image are you referring to? Just curious.
 
Got it! Notice both stereo images were made by the same photographer, probably using the same camera. Now...this one is also supposed to be of the 3rd Massachusetts also at Fort Totten. Again, same photographer. However, if you look at the name stenciled on the carriage rails it indicates "Fort Saratoga." And, the men are wearing sack coats, not shell jackets. More research is needed here.

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Is anyone using an artificial intelligence program/system to cleanup or correct the exposure of CW era photos. In particular, there are several photo prints of the Wilderness & Spotsylvania battlefields, taken by G. O. Brown in 1866 which came out over-exposed or washed out - it would be great if they could be fixed. The ones I am looking at are held in the collections at the LIbratry of Congress : see https://www.loc.gov/pictures/related/?va=exact&sp=2&q=Brown,+G.+O.,+active+1860-1889&fi=author&sg=true&op=EQUAL

There is one photo of Palmers field (aka Saunders field) taken from the Federal entrenchments on the east side of the field viewing west toward the treeline and Confederate positions - you can make out some of the features including the white fence surrounding the Union Cemetery #1 in the upper right but most of it needs help :
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[ high res versions at LOC : https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2012647723/ ]
 
Is anyone using an artificial intelligence program/system to cleanup or correct the exposure of CW era photos. In particular, there are several photo prints of the Wilderness & Spotsylvania battlefields, taken by G. O. Brown in 1866 which came out over-exposed or washed out - it would be great if they could be fixed. The ones I am looking at are held in the collections at the LIbratry of Congress : see https://www.loc.gov/pictures/related/?va=exact&sp=2&q=Brown,+G.+O.,+active+1860-1889&fi=author&sg=true&op=EQUAL

There is one photo of Palmers field (aka Saunders field) taken from the Federal entrenchments on the east side of the field viewing west toward the treeline and Confederate positions - you can make out some of the features including the white fence surrounding the Union Cemetery #1 in the upper right but most of it needs help :View attachment 572890 :

[ high res versions at LOC : https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2012647723/ ]
The stereoviews, as these images were originally published, give us first generation images of Brown's work. Quite a few are in the collection of the American Antiquarian Society.

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The stereoviews, as these images were originally published, give us first generation images of Brown's work. Quite a few are in the collection of the American Antiquarian Society.
Hey! This is great! I have always hoped to find an unblemished print of this photo. My ancestors served in the 50th Virginia Infantry which was deployed along the tree line across the field shown in this photo; they would have been located just about dead center of the picture.

Thanks for posting this!
 
I count one light artillery sword, one cavalry sword and four foot officer's swords. I can't tell if the artillery sword or cavalry sword are officer models. Officers bought their own swords but I don't think state troops had to obey regulations.
Both sabers have basket hilts. Probably officer models. The scabbard is thin compared to an enlisted Cavalry saber and enlisted Artillery sabers didn't use the basket hilt.
 
I was looking at the hilts and can see with closer inspection that, based on the angle of the hilt and the quillon, the artillery saber was really a cavalry saber. However, I have seen cavalry blades matched with artillery hilts and artillery blades matched with cavalry hilts.
 
I was looking at the hilts and can see with closer inspection that, based on the angle of the hilt and the quillon, the artillery saber was really a cavalry saber. However, I have seen cavalry blades matched with artillery hilts and artillery blades matched with cavalry hilts.
Oh yeah. The possibilities are almost endless. I think I have seen Artillery Officer Sabers with more of the Cavalry style blade. Not so arched. I even have a chimera saber from Dixie Gun Works that is a Cavalry blade with the Artillery hilt. It was $35.00 some years ago. I think they still offer them but more expensive I'm sure.
I'm probably repeating myself with this tidbit of info. There is a photo of the 3rd Infantry (?) in the Southwest at a fort. The men are lounging around and nothing is really happening. The tidbit is that all the officers are wearing Artillery sabers. The deal was that the armory where they were, I think on California, had no Infantry officers sabers so the men went with the flow and were issued Artillery officer sabers instead. So things can be confusing. The photo is on the cover of the book about that regiment. California Column maybe. I forget since its been a while since I've seen the book.
Cheers!
 

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