A Toast ... between enemies

The quotes probably came from Simpson's earlier work, Let us Have Peace, Pg. 20. I think that in this version, Polk's "counterpart" was explicitly identified as Grant. So, Simpson confused the flag-of-truce excursions, as Grant wasn't on the one featuring Buford's toast to George Washington.
Yes, you're probably right.

As to Grant's drinking, that whole article is a focus on what Grant did drink, what he didn't drink, how he drank ginger beer, etc. I can't even imagine the burden he had to bear with being judged so harshly for a habit that many indulged in quite liberally. And how difficult in the circumstances it must have been to avoid. Here's a snippet from an insightful article re: Grant's drinking:

"In March 1862, Major General Henry Wager 'Old Brains' Halleck was a frustrated man. One of his brigadier generals, Ulysses S. Grant, was getting all the credit in the papers for the taking of Forts Henry and Donelson that February, credit that Halleck believed belonged to the department commander — himself.

Halleck wanted to remove Grant from his command of the expedition, but he wanted the order to come from above. Halleck had been peppering the general-in-chief of the Union armies, Maj. Gen. George B. McClellan, with complaints, but it was on March 4, 1862, that he sent the clincher: 'A rumor has just reached me that since the taking of Fort Donelson General Grant has resumed his former bad habits. If so, it will account for his neglect of my often-repeated orders.'

Halleck was temporarily successful in his quest, for after the Battle of Shiloh Grant was removed from command of the drive on Corinth, Miss., but Grant proved resilient and regained field command later in 1862. Nonetheless, the notion of the general's supposed love for the bottle, the 'former bad habits' to which Halleck referred, was baggage he had to carry throughout most of his Civil War career.

That reputation for overimbibing began years before the Civil War, when brevet Captain U.S. Grant was stationed on the West Coast, first at Fort Vancouver, Ore., and later at Fort Humboldt in California. Life at remote Fort Humboldt was tedious, and Grant sorely missed his wife, Julia, and their children.

Lonely Captain Grant began to drink, and reportedly to excess. On April 11, 1854, the day he was promoted to the permanent rank of captain in the Regular Army, Grant resigned his commission, allegedly hounded to do so by his commander, Colonel Robert C. Buchanan, and headed back to his family in Missouri.

The legend of Grant the drunkard lived on in the Army, which numbered less than 5,000 men at the start of the Civil War. In such a small and close-knit military family, gossip spread quickly and widely. The stories of Grant's irresponsible West Coast binges were repeated over and over, and no doubt embellished as they were told and retold.

By all accounts Grant was a lousy drinker with what we would call today a 'low boiling point.' One drink — even so much as a beer — was sufficient to slur his speech noticeably. Two or three drinks were entirely too many, and three would thoroughly incapacitate him. Consider, also, that Grant was short in stature — 5 feet 7 7/8 inches — and his weight fluctuated between 135 and 145 pounds. That is not a lot of body in which to distribute a glass of whiskey.

That low boiling point did not make Grant a drunkard nor an alcoholic with a physical dependence on alcohol. Grant was likely just an inept drinker when compared to other Army men such as the two-fisted imbiber Joe Hooker.

It was fortunate, then, that Grant was off the bottle when, not long after the start of the Civil War, he was appointed to serve as commander of the 21st Illinois Infantry Regiment. Demonstrating a genuine sense of responsibility that was refreshing in an Army commanded mostly by amateur volunteer officers, Grant rose rapidly in rank. Under his own initiative and with the help of his aide John Rawlins, who, like the general, was a Galena, Ill., resident, Grant usually shunned drink. While he did occasionally imbibe, it was often out of sight of Raw-lins and when Julia was not traveling with the army.

Grant's enemies in the U.S. Army and in the press were quick to ascribe any setbacks during his Civil War career to drink, and in victory called him a lucky drunk. President Abraham Lincoln turned a deaf ear to such stories as long as Grant was winning."

 
As promised ...

#9 in this thread might explain a few things and even give us a date ... but no source unless @Saruman knows of one :biggrin:


I found the quote in Leonidas Polk; Bishop and General by Dr. William M. Polk, the General's son.
 
Everyone now and again, discussions were held between opponents under a flag of truce during the Civil War. They often ended on a less serious note

From Polk's son's biography: "On another occasion, General Cheatham, who was an ardent devotee of the turf, discovered symptoms of a like weakness in General Grant; and after conversing for some time upon official matters, the conversation drifted to the subject of horses. The congenial topic was pursued to the satisfaction of both parties, until it ended in a gravely humorous suggestion from Cheatham to Grant that, as fighting was so troublesome a business, they might do well to settle the vexing questions about which the sections were at war by a grand international horse-race on the Missouri shore! Grant laughingly answered that he wished it might be so."
 
they might do well to settle the vexing questions about which the sections were at war by a grand international horse-race on the Missouri shore! Grant laughingly answered that he wished it might be so."
I'd put a bet on Grant to win that one, too :D
 

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