Perryville A time to challenge historians' citations.

A real historian like Mark R. Wilson finds the archived material at the Defense Dept files and the Library of Congress archives of letters of famous people. Such a historian can evaluate the sources in their proper context, and see the complexity.
 
I think it is interesting that Sherman's quotes show how original Grant's thinking was. There is a certain, 'I wouldn't have done this on a bet.' quality to Sherman's statements. His reaction to making contact with the Mississippi River above Vicksburg is a prime example.

Whatever the facts are, the Shiloh Grant quote rings true.
No question. My point was simply to use it as an example of how something is just accepted and then becomes "fact". Catton located the earliest source he could find but it's unvarnished hearsay. Given all the Shiloh controversy about Buell-Grant, who was responsible for the ultimate Union victory, etc that began almost immediately after the battle, a careful researcher's first question would by why this quote never appeared from Sherman in his memoirs or his correspondence, or from anyone Sherman spoke to, while he was alive. Instead, it shows up a couple of years after Sherman's death and refers to an alleged interview in the late 1870's with a newspaper reporter, but last I knew that interview was never found. It sounds like something Grant may have said but it also sounds like something a script writer would have come up with in a movie about the "unshakeable" Grant.
 
A real historian like Mark R. Wilson finds the archived material at the Defense Dept files and the Library of Congress archives of letters of famous people. Such a historian can evaluate the sources in their proper context, and see the complexity.
Another good point. You need to know where to look in the first place. And not every repository is that well-organized. Doing this right is hard work.
 
If a historian has access to the archival material, he/she can produced paragraphs like this one:
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p. 402 https://books.google.com/books?id=Ud8fejE_4XkC&pg=PA414&lpg=PA414&dq="Arthur+Edwards"+Quartermaster+Bridgeport&source=bl&ots=mLDe4VtjkS&sig=ACfU3U0fKeXKv8W4m3jfCIcRRoE9aERpcg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjd-PzV2IrwAhXOKM0KHWsSC5MQ6AEwC3oECBAQAw#v=onepage&q="Arthur Edwards" Quartermaster Bridgeport&f=false
There were many things happening in Kentucky and Tennessee under the direction of Meigs and McCallum and by the end of November 1863 the excuses for inaction were going to fade away and the real work of building up the railroad resources of Tennessee, and the steamboat construction wharves at Bridgeport could begin.
Alternative routes to move freight to Nashville, Chattanooga and Knoxville were imperative.
 
If a historian has access to the archival material, he/she can produced paragraphs like this one:
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p. 402 https://books.google.com/books?id=Ud8fejE_4XkC&pg=PA414&lpg=PA414&dq="Arthur+Edwards"+Quartermaster+Bridgeport&source=bl&ots=mLDe4VtjkS&sig=ACfU3U0fKeXKv8W4m3jfCIcRRoE9aERpcg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjd-PzV2IrwAhXOKM0KHWsSC5MQ6AEwC3oECBAQAw#v=onepage&q="Arthur Edwards" Quartermaster Bridgeport&f=false
There were many things happening in Kentucky and Tennessee under the direction of Meigs and McCallum and by the end of November 1863 the excuses for inaction were going to fade away and the real work of building up the railroad resources of Tennessee, and the steamboat construction wharves at Bridgeport could begin.
Alternative routes to move freight to Nashville, Chattanooga and Knoxville were imperative.
I helped lead a staff ride of logistics soldiers from FT Campbell Ky. I used the jaw dropping earthworks at Fortress Rosecrans as my backdrop. My theme was despite all the blah-blah-blah about Morgan & CSA raiders they had heard on their previous stop, the QM's & logicians had triumphed. The dandies with feathers in their hats were failures. Your post confirms that conclusion.
 
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I helped lead a staff ride of logistics soldiers from FT Campbell Ky. I used the jaw dropping earthworks at Fortress Rosecrans as my backdrop. My theme was despite all the blah-blah-blah about Morgan & CSA raiders they had heard on their previous stop, the QM's & logicians had triumphed. The dandies with feathers in their hats were failures. You post confirms that conclusion.
A Morgan realist @Rhea Cole rh
 
A Morgan realist @Rhea Cole rh
One of my favorite breakfast places is across East Main Street from where Morgan & his men serenaded Matty Ready with a rousing rendition of ' Ride Boys, Ride! ' at dawn. He had returned to Murfreesboro from a raid at four in the morning.

Invited into the Ready town home, he asked to speak to beautiful Matty in private. She said yes. Their wedding celebrated in that same parlor was the feast before the Gottsdamarung of the Battle of Stones River… from a story tellers point of view, logistics is never gonna have chance.

Source is Matty's younger sister Alice's diary. UNC Library.
 
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I helped lead a staff ride of logistics soldiers from FT Campbell Ky. I used the jaw dropping earthworks at Fortress Rosecrans as my backdrop. My theme was despite all the blah-blah-blah about Morgan & CSA raiders they had heard on their previous stop, the QM's & logicians had triumphed. The dandies with feathers in their hats were failures. You post confirms that conclusion.
If a John Morgan gets loose in Kentucky, never no mind, a steamboat per day loaded at Bridgeport and steaming to Knoxville can provide whatever the US Army cannot buy locally.
A similar arrangement prevailed at Nashville. Steamboat access existed both on the Cumberland River, and on the Tennessee River as far as Johnsonville.
 
If a John Morgan gets loose in Kentucky, never no mind, a steamboat per day loaded at Bridgeport and steaming to Knoxville can provide whatever the US Army cannot buy locally.
A similar arrangement prevailed at Nashville. Steamboat access existed both on the Cumberland River, and on the Tennessee River as far as Johnsonville.
Buel took over the preexisting construction of the Nashville & Northwestern 70 mile route to Johnsonville on the Tennessee River. Even when low water kept the steamboats away from Nashville, the N&NWRR kept supplies moving. The 13th USCT & others successfully fought partisan attacks 24/7. Johnsonville Tennessee State Park is worth a visit.
 
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Shelby Foote is a source (used multiple times) and listed in the notes in both Battle Cry of Freedom by James McPherson and Team of Rivals by Doris Kearns Goodwin.

Cheers

Shelby Foote is included in the biographical notes to McPherson's Battle Cry. Interestingly and I will have to look carefully, Yale University historian C. Vann Woodward is not.

Woodward was a Southerner who pulled no punches, but pesky to those shaping the Narrative.
 

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