Currency with link to ancestry?

[ceecee]

Anyone know who/more about who the "M Black" was who signed this $20 confederate bill?
Or who the other signer is?
Is currency legit?
Is their an obvious connection between the $20 confederate and $10 handbill?
We have a mysterious family member whose last name we only know as Black, who would have likely been born sometime between 1865-1875.
Really trying to figure out who he was, and the only thing we can figure is he had some relation the confederate bill signer.
However, the $20 confederate + the handbill+ a photo without any identifying marks, are the only clues we have.
These were all of my relative's worldly possessions when she passed in the 1970s.
Can anyone help?

 

[Bur Oak]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the $20 note in your post is a low quality 20th Century reproduction.

 

[JOHN42768]

Welcome, enjoy

 

[ceecee]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the $20 note in your post is a low quality 20th Century reproduction.

I figured the bill was a fake. Neither one of them look real to me, but was the person who's supposed signature is on the repro, M. Black, a real person?

I'm hoping so, and if he is, I think he may be key to helping unlock a family mystery: My grandmother's origin.

My dad is 88 years old and never knew where his mother came from. Because this repro bill was stored in a treasure box with a tintype photo we think is her father, and she guarded it so foercely, I'd like to explore if there's something to the name.

 

[lupaglupa]

Do you not have any others avenues for research? Not a criticism, just curious.

 

[Bur Oak]

I figured the bill was a fake. Neither one of them look real to me, but was the person who's supposed signature is on the repro, M. Black, a real person?

I'm hoping so, and if he is, I think he may be key to helping unlock a family mystery: My grandmother's origin.

My dad is 88 years old and never knew where his mother came from. Because this repro bill was stored in a treasure box with a tintype photo we think is her father, and she guarded it so foercely, I'd like to explore if there's something to the name.

There was a "Miss M. J. Black" who was one of the many clerk's that signed notes for the Confederate Treasury.

 

[Pollaco]

According to the book "Confederate Treasury Notes, the Signer and Their Stories" by Charles Derby and Michael McNeal there was a Mary Josephine Black. Oddly enough some the notes were also signed by a C. P. White. That would make it a "Black and White" note and are said to be collectors items.

 

[Pollaco]

Some tidbits about this person. She was born in Charleston in 1830. She had a sister Hannah and several half brothers and sisters. She married a George Andrew Tracy from Vermont in 1867. She had at least 2 children (George Foster Tracy and Mary T. Black Tracy) So that son, George, could be your mystery man. She died in 1880. Buried in Hartford.

 

[Pollaco]

I am guessing the other signer is M. Boyd. Mary Eliza "Mamie" Boyd did sign about 600 (599) $20.00 notes with M.J.Black between serial numbers 45201-45800.

 

[Story]

Anyone know who/more about who the "M Black" was who signed this $20 confederate bill?
Or who the other signer is?

Per Polloco's post, here's a "black and white" $20 bill

Challenge | Yale University Art Gallery

artgallery.yale.edu

Note the complete title - Magistrate: (for Register) M Black

So, I'd suggest concentrating your research efforts on who was in the Magistrate Court in Richmond during the war.

 

[ceecee]

Oh my gosh! Thank ou EVERYONE for this fabulous information. Pardon the poor pun(s?), but this whole line of the family has been a vexing black hole.

 

[ceecee]

Do you not have any others avenues for research? Not a criticism, just curious.

Not for the Black who is supposedly her father. We just barely found her mother, and it was only because of an obscure newspaper article that a fellow geneaoligist was able to make the connection. My friend has been exploring Black in relation to the mother, but the time and likely place of my grandmother's birth happen to be times and places that lacked records. Very frustrating!

 

[ceecee]

We think this is her father, or possibly Union veteran grandfather. Just for giggles, anyone recognize this guy?

It's either her father, the elusive missing man named (Frank?) Black, or her her maternal grandfather, who I just learned about, Francis Marion Vaughn, who served in the Union Army.

Regardless, we know he's family. My dad, his mother, and several others living family members share striking similarities with this man!

Photo is tintype, which could easily be of the civil war timeframe, but tintypes of later genetations were kind of retro, like how we do Wild West studio pics today. From what I know of clothing, style of clothing is ether poor man's of the 1860-70 era, or relaxed style 1890-1900 era.

 

[ceecee]

Some tidbits about this person. She was born in Charleston in 1830. She had a sister Hannah and several half brothers and sisters. She married a George Andrew Tracy from Vermont in 1867. She had at least 2 children (George Foster Tracy and Mary T. Black Tracy) So that son, George, could be your mystery man. She died in 1880. Buried in Hartford.

THANK YOU!!!!!!! And I had no clue women were signers. Thank you for helping me recognize my biased assumption. That clue is probably really important!

 

[ceecee]

I am guessing the other signer is M. Boyd. Mary Eliza "Mamie" Boyd did sign about 600 (599) $20.00 notes with M.J.Black between serial numbers 45201-45800.

Thank you!!!

 

[Pollaco]

THANK YOU!!!!!!! And I had no clue women were signers. Thank you for helping me recognize my biased assumption. That clue is probably really important!

Of the 371 "clerks" during the war, 242 of them were women.

 

[ceecee]

Of the 371 "clerks" during the war, 242 of them were women.

Clearly I'm learning here, and I appreciate the education so much!

 

[Pollaco]

Sorry I don't have the names of the half brothers and sisters of Mary. There is a possibility that your family tree came from one of them. Their names would have also be Black,they are all offspring of Alexander W. Black.

 

[ceecee]

Sorry I don't have the names of the half brothers and sisters of Mary. There is a possibility that you family tree came from one of them. Their names would also be Black,they are all offspring of Alexander W. Black.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

 

[Story]

Some tidbits about this person. (1) She was born in Charleston in 1830. (2) She had a sister Hannah and several half brothers and sisters. (3) She married a George Andrew Tracy from Vermont in 1867. (4) She had at least 2 children (George Foster Tracy and Mary T. Black Tracy) So that son, George, could be your mystery man. (5) She died in 1880. (6) Buried in Hartford.

(7) Of the 371 "clerks" during the war, 242 of them were women.

Can you provide the sources/URLs for each tidbit above, as our person here is new and should see where information originates?

Because in building a background, one should be able to present if challenged "source, please?"