Original Freedom Or Death Cs?

[LafayetteCountyDigger]

Do y'all think that this is real? I might be able to get it for 1000 but I have my doubts

 

[Rusk County Avengers]

VERY rare, and suspicious to me, to see it not only with the "spoon" but it also being intact.

 

[LafayetteCountyDigger]

VERY rare, and suspicious to me, to see it not only with the "spoon" but it also being intact.

Yeah I know Hanover brass makes a good fake

 

[scooter748driver]

I'm not expert and really not even a novice, but the font looks all wrong to me.

 

[UCVRelics]

Fake Fake Fake and Fake. Oh did I mention FAKE

 

[LafayetteCountyDigger]

Fake Fake Fake and Fake. Oh did I mention FAKE

That was my gut feeling. Thanks

 

[GwilymT]

Fake Fake Fake and Fake. Oh did I mention FAKE

What gives it away?

 

[UCVRelics]

What gives it away?

The patina for one and the price for another. Ray Charles could see that it's fake

 

[Salterr]

What gives it away?

To help elaborate further on what makes this a fake we have to look at a bunch of things. Size, patina, casting type and material, filing and font. Just because they are crudely made doesn't mean it's an authentic confederate piece. You'll find if you look hard enough that most of the fakes have one bent belt loop for some reason or fake inscriptions with a date. The light blue tarnish is a chemically processed aging technique. I'm including a picture to show the differences. First the size is different and the remakes are always smaller. Secondly there are no air holes in the fake buckle so it was cast a different way. The material should be red brass and the buckle has no reddish tint to it and if you zoom in the fake plate is smooth on the back compared to the real thing that is sand cast with those little bumps. The letters on the fake are also crooked the E isn't lined up correctly and the letters are off in size. Last I would say that the fake buckle has no file marks to smooth out the rough casting edges. These are some things you must look at when dealing with confederate buckles. This buckles rates a 10+ so there's probably less than 50 even known about it would be several thousands more for sure.

 

[GwilymT]

To help elaborate further on what makes this a fake we have to look at a bunch of things. Size, patina, casting type and material, filing and font. Just because they are crudely made doesn't mean it's an authentic confederate piece. You'll find if you look hard enough that most of the fakes have one bent belt loop for some reason or fake inscriptions with a date. The light blue tarnish is a chemically processed aging technique. I'm including a picture to show the differences. First the size is different and the remakes are always smaller. Secondly there are no air holes in the fake buckle so it was cast a different way. The material should be red brass and the buckle has no reddish tint to it and if you zoom in the fake plate is smooth on the back compared to the real thing that is sand cast with those little bumps. The letters on the fake are also crooked the E isn't lined up correctly and the letters are off in size. Last I would say that the fake buckle has no file marks to smooth out the rough casting edges. These are some things you must look at when dealing with confederate buckles. This buckles rates a 10+ so there's probably less than 50 even known about it would be several thousands more for sure.View attachment 459580

Thank you for taking the time to go through this. It'll help me and any others who may see it.

 

[Salterr]

Thank you for taking the time to go through this. It'll help me and any others who may see it.

I'm glad to help. I spend most of my time around the relics section of the site. I love seeing what people have to share and what they want to learn about. I focus my own collection on insignia and shoulder boards. How about you?