Zouave regiments at Gettysburg

[2ndDEboy]

Who were the exact Zouave regiments/regiment number at Gettysburg. Needing a list of all the Zouave regiments at Gettysburg thank you

 

[captaindrew]

The 14th Brooklyn did have ball buttons on their jackets, check this out https://www.horsesoldier.com/products/27243 and this video

 

[Kurtlg]

I would assume they would have known the difference during the war , but who knows. The 83rd Pennsylvania were issued French chasseur uniforms early in the war but the French made uniforms tended to be too small and were changed later. Those uniforms had blue jackets and trousers. In the books I've seen them featured they are usually identified as chasseur but are included in works on Zouaves , probably because of their colorful uniforms. My source for accurate color illustrations is usually Troiani. To many if not most they would probably say "who cares". I've been painting miniatures since the 1960s and have always strived for accuracy. A button from the 14th Brooklyn would be a great thing to have , but if some one is selling Civil War buttons they should know the difference between a Zouave and the 14th Brooklyn. I'm really curious about the Trostle button. As you said it may well be from the 114th Pa. How does the seller know it's a Zouave button ?

 

[Cavalier]

@Kurtlg I paint only wargame figures, 15 mm, but tried to be as accurate as that scale would allow. Used to paint 30mm back in the 60s but not civil war.

I also wondered about the button from the Trostle farm.

The only Zouaves I did were the 72nd. Pa. and I believe they were actually Zouaves. Although they were not wearing Zouave uniforms at Gettysburg to the best of my knowledge. The figures I painted also had the shorter two band rifle musket with sword bayonet, which to best of my knowledge anyway, that regiment was not issued. I believe they were called Baxter's Philadelphia Fire Zouaves.
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I wanted to do the 5th.New York as they appeared at 2nd. Bull Run but arthritis in my right hand put a stop to my painting days.

I assume you paint 54s. I only wish I had the talent for that. What 54s I have I purchased already painted.

I have the Troiani print of the Zouave company of the 69th. at 1st. Bull Run and have two other prints of his. Really nice in my opinion.

I had assumed that distinction between Chasseurs and Zouaves had pretty much been obscured in the U.S. I'm glad someone is interested in these details.

John

 

[2ndDEboy]

A lot of the troops did retreat through the trostle farm area if I'm not mistaken back to cemetery hill? There was a battery that retreated by recoil thru the trostle farm as well

 

[2ndDEboy]

I would assume they would have known the difference during the war , but who knows. The 83rd Pennsylvania were issued French chasseur uniforms early in the war but the French made uniforms tended to be too small and were changed later. Those uniforms had blue jackets and trousers. In the books I've seen them featured they are usually identified as chasseur but are included in works on Zouaves , probably because of their colorful uniforms. My source for accurate color illustrations is usually Troiani. To many if not most they would probably say "who cares". I've been painting miniatures since the 1960s and have always strived for accuracy. A button from the 14th Brooklyn would be a great thing to have , but if some one is selling Civil War buttons they should know the difference between a Zouave and the 14th Brooklyn. I'm really curious about the Trostle button. As you said it may well be from the 114th Pa. How does the seller know it's a Zouave button ?

the seller was Andy keiser from artifact 777 on cemetery hill I'm thinking that when people see a round button they automatically think Zouave and are naive of the many variations of what one thinks if Zouave

 

[Kurtlg]

@Kurtlg I paint only wargame figures, 15 mm, but tried to be as accurate as that scale would allow. Used to paint 30mm back in the 60s but not civil war.

I also wondered about the button from the Trostle farm.

The only Zouaves I did were the 72nd. Pa. and I believe they were actually Zouaves. Although they were not wearing Zouave uniforms at Gettysburg to the best of my knowledge. The figures I painted also had the shorter two band rifle musket with sword bayonet, which to best of my knowledge anyway, that regiment was not issued. I believe they were called Baxter's Philadelphia Fire Zouaves.
.
I wanted to do the 5th.New York as they appeared at 2nd. Bull Run but arthritis in my right hand put a stop to my painting days.

I assume you paint 54s. I only wish I had the talent for that. What 54s I have I purchased already painted.

I have the Troiani print of the Zouave company of the 69th. at 1st. Bull Run and have two other prints of his. Really nice in my opinion.

I had assumed that distinction between Chasseurs and Zouaves had pretty much been obscured in the U.S. I'm glad someone is interested in these details.

John

I get it. Arthritis is creeping into my joints as well. I primarily paint 75mm now. Even with my optivisor 54mm is too much of a challenge. Fortunately there are some great 75mm figures out there.

 

[2ndDEboy]

The 14th Brooklyn did have ball buttons on their jackets, check this out https://www.horsesoldier.com/products/27243 and this video

The 14th Brooklyn did have ball buttons on their jackets, check this out https://www.horsesoldier.com/products/27243 and this video

 

[Tom Elmore]

The 114th Pennsylvania formed up just south of the Peter Trostle farm and were afterwards driven back from the Peach Orchard in that same general direction.