Lincoln Willie Linclon rest in peace...

[5fish]

President Linclon lost his son Willie and was grief stricken by it. Willie was laid to rest in the Carroll Family Vault in Oak Hill cemetery in D.C., until the Lincoln family return to Illinois. As we know Willie return to Illinois with his father in a casket.

Here is a link to William Carroll Family Vault and mister Carroll play a part in the Lincoln Bible story....

www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=14448183

 

[Carronade]

I sympathize with anyone who's lost a child.

 

[James N.]

Remember that President and Mrs. Jefferson Davis also lost a son during the war - one who fell to his death from the porch of the White House of the Confederacy.

 

[donna]

There was tragedy for everyone. Those who loss children always bear the greatest lost to me. My Granny lost two babies. my Grandma one baby at birth. My Mom lost a baby boy. They are losses that one never gets over.

May God bless all who have lost children and give them comfort and peace.

 

[5fish]

It is mentioned Lincoln visited the Carroll tomb more then once after Willie was laid to rest there...

 

[Carronade]

Remember that President and Mrs. Jefferson Davis also lost a son during the war - one who fell to his death from the porch of the White House of the Confederacy.

I did not know that, thanks.

 

[5fish]

Here are some more details on Willie's death... He was embalmed in the White house and there the sermon given at his service...

http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/education/williedeath.htm

 

[5fish]

Here is description of Lincoln visits to Willie in the tomb...

The president purportedly visited the vault several times, and requested the coffin be reopened on at least two occasions. It is said the he could not stand to leave the boy alone in the dark, cold tomb. He would sit with Willie's body for hours on end. While it is impossible to know what went on during Lincoln's visits to the crypt, we can imagine that conversations arose. Conversations that Lincoln would have considered both natural and important in maintaining a spiritual connection with his departed son.

https://thechirurgeonsapprentice.com/2012/11/29/abraham-lincoln-conversations-with-the-dead/

More details about Willie, he seemed to be a smart ...lad

http://www.mrlincolnswhitehouse.org...ily/family-william-wallace-lincoln-1850-1862/

 

[5fish]

Here is a book about Lincoln visiting Willie in the Carroll tomb. It is a best seller...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0812995341/?tag=civilwartalkc-20

 

[major bill]

Was at the Lincoln tomb where Willie is about an hour ago.

 

[James N.]

More details about Willie, he seemed to be a smart ...lad

http://www.mrlincolnswhitehouse.org...ily/family-william-wallace-lincoln-1850-1862/

Especially sad because Tad, although supposedly a lovable little boy and something of a scamp, wasn't quite "right in the head"; after Willie's death Lincoln couldn't bring himself to ever discipline Tad.

 

[Study the Past]

Was at the Lincoln tomb where Willie is about an hour ago.

Always wanted to visit Oak Ridge Cemetery to see the grounds, the Lincoln family, McClernand, and where others are. The grounds themselves look to be very well maintained and kept up, indeed.

 

[5fish]

Here are a couple links about Tad Lincoln's short life...

He had learning disabilities and...

https://featherfoster.wordpress.com/2013/11/13/the-tragedy-of-tad-lincoln/

http://www.everythinglincoln.com/articles/TadLincoln.html

 

[5fish]

I do not know the Oak Hill cemetery in D.C. or where the Carroll tomb is located or how many tourists visit that cemetery or the Carroll tomb but if it is not heavily visited that might be the only spot in Washington D C where you can stand where Lincoln stood, in front of the tomb. We know he visited the Carroll tomb many times and stood before it before he passed through the iron gates of the tomb to grieve over Willie. It may sound ghoulish but I bet most other places where Lincoln stood in D.C. are hard to access today.

 

[major bill]

Always wanted to visit Oak Ridge Cemetery to see the grounds, the Lincoln family, McClernand, and where others are. The grounds themselves look to be very well maintained and kept up, indeed.

There is a lot to see in Springfield. You should consider a visit.

 

[5fish]

Here is a book about Lincoln visiting Willie in the Carroll tomb. It is a best seller...

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/0812995341/?tag=civilwartalkc-20

This book just won the Man Booker prize 2017

 

[Canadian]

It was very tragic and all too common. Losing a child to disease happened to Davis, the Charles Darwin, to members of Lincoln's cabinet, to many well known figures of the era. This did not lessen the pain, of course.