When a Collection Theme Starts To Change Direction.

[drm2m]

The first CW pieces I had date back to 1971--a Model 1858 D/A Starr and M1858 Remington Army Revolver which my father and I used to shoot. Everything added after that was never fired.

My collecting focus started to change in April 2005 when I traded a dewat M1928A1 Thompson SMG for a rare Remington-Rider D/A fluted cylinder New Model Belt Revolver.

Previously nothing in my collection was for sale----it started with ---find something interesting to trade me.

Since then many of my WWII pieces have either been sold or traded for antiques. (Preferably CW period pieces.)
Some of the cash that I received in selling WWII pieces has been used in acquiring antique stuff.

Shown below is part of this story as it developed.

These are WWII pieces that I sold outright.

This M1A1 carbine was a trade for a cased London Colt M1849 with an interesting provenance.

These pieces were sold outright.

These are WWII pieces that I used in trade.

This Portuguese M1941 K98 rifle with two bayonets was used in trade for the Model 1816 Springfield flintlock musket.

These are antique pieces that I purchased outright.
P53 Enfield rifle musket/ Tower 1861 with bayonet.

Fenian Needham Conversion Bridesburg .58 cal. center fire musket.

P56 Enfield carbine.

Model 1816 Springfield musket and Sharps Model 1859 New Model Rifle.
I traded the M1 Rifle with accessories and quite a bit of cash for this Sharps rifle.

First and Third Model Plant Revolvers---trades with some cash from me.

A Cooper D/A Revolver purchased cash.

A Martial 1851 Colt Revolver with the Remington-Rider D/A revolver and an S&W No.2 Army revolver that was used to try and hold up my father-in-law in his house years ago.

 

[UCVRelics]

Very Nice guns and you are right it does run all aspects of many wars. Thanks for sharing.

 

[redbob]

All that I can say is that I feel much better about the zigs and zags that my collecting journey has taken.

 

[Patrick H]

I think you definitely got the long end of the stick on that carbine/London Colt trade. I was never interested in those folding stock carbines. My cousin has one with a solid WII provenance and a full walnut stock. I'd love to have that one. But if that M1 Garand had been mine, it would STILL be mine. With regard to all the fully auto weapons, I'd loved to have come to your house to handle them, but I'd never have bothered to license and pay the tax on them myself.

 

[drm2m]

A little clarification.
I am not licenced for full auto in Canada.
One of the MP44s is converted to semi-auto as well as the MP40. (I don't think that this classification exists in the U.S.)
One of the MP44s is a dewat with a moving action.
The MG42 is deactivated with a moving action---the MG34 is deactivated without a moving action.
These dewats can be sold to anyone in Canada without any licence.

 

[Michael W.]

A little clarification.
I am not licenced for full auto in Canada.
One of the MP44s is converted to semi-auto as well as the MP40. (I don't think that this classification exists in the U.S.)
One of the MP44s is a dewat with a moving action.
The MG42 is deactivated with a moving action---the MG34 is deactivated without a moving action.
These dewats can be sold to anyone in Canada without any licence.

I was wondering about the automatic weapons and you living in Canada, how that worked. But geeze, what an amazing array you have and have acquired!! The trench guns are my favorite. The MG42, wow, I could only dream about...

 

[ikesdad]

Change direction ? Not a problem, that's simply when one goes from being a collector to being an accumulator. Ask me how I know. Sometimes the oddest things will speak to one.

 

[vmicraig]

Wow, what a collection! I'm not sure I'd have been able to part with that Thompson, regardless of how much ACW weaponry was still on my wish list! I'd love to have a 1927 Thompson (M1928) of WWII Marine Corps heritage, but I'm not rich, nor do I have a class III. I'm impressed!

 

[WJC]

Thanks for sharing! I might have kept one or two of those WW2 pieces, but you certainly have put together a beautiful 'CW' collection. That cased 1849 London Colt is gorgeous!

 

[WJC]

S&W No.2 Army revolver that was used to try and hold up my father-in-law in his house years ago.

That sounds like an interesting story! Who would have guessed a robber would use a 150-year-old pistol. Maybe interest in antique firearms is reaching the underworld!

 

[drm2m]

I still have two WWII guns 'converted from full auto to semi-auto' ---a British Lanchester and a Russian PPSh 41.
I really should be parting with these guns as--- due to the grandfathering dates the number of licence holders is gradually dying off. I would prefer to sell them as they are and not deactivate them.

I still have a bunch of WWII pistols (German/Axis) most of which were brought back by known Canadian vets whose service records I got from the archives in Ottawa.

The S&W robber's revolver story is quite interesting.
On April 17 1960 a fellow arrives at the front door of my father-in-law's house and attempts to rob him.
A scuffle follows---the guy drops the gun and takes off. Apparently it was loaded.
I managed to get a copy of the newspaper article that appeared on April 18 1960 in the local newspaper.
The police scratched Apr 17 /60 with the police chief's initials on right side of the frame.
It was given to me for Christmas in 1991.

Extracts from that newspaper article.

 

[JOHN42768]

Really wonderful items. Parting with some of those had to be heartbreaking.

 

[Badgercwcollector]

Nice

 

[unionblue]

The first CW pieces I had date back to 1971--a Model 1858 D/A Starr and M1858 Remington Army Revolver which my father and I used to shoot. Everything added after that was never fired.

My collecting focus started to change in April 2005 when I traded a dewat M1928A1 Thompson SMG for a rare Remington-Rider D/A fluted cylinder New Model Belt Revolver.

Previously nothing in my collection was for sale----it started with ---find something interesting to trade me.

Since then many of my WWII pieces have either been sold or traded for antiques. (Preferably CW period pieces.)
Some of the cash that I received in selling WWII pieces has been used in acquiring antique stuff.

Shown below is part of this story as it developed.

These are WWII pieces that I sold outright.

This M1A1 carbine was a trade for a cased London Colt M1849 with an interesting provenance.

These pieces were sold outright.

These are WWII pieces that I used in trade.

This Portuguese M1941 K98 rifle with two bayonets was used in trade for the Model 1816 Springfield flintlock musket.

These are antique pieces that I purchased outright.
P53 Enfield rifle musket/ Tower 1861 with bayonet.

Fenian Needham Conversion Bridesburg .58 cal. center fire musket.

P56 Enfield carbine.

Model 1816 Springfield musket and Sharps Model 1859 New Model Rifle.
I traded the M1 Rifle with accessories and quite a bit of cash for this Sharps rifle.

First and Third Model Plant Revolvers---trades with some cash from me.

A Cooper D/A Revolver purchased cash.

A Martial 1851 Colt Revolver with the Remington-Rider D/A revolver and an S&W No.2 Army revolver that was used to try and hold up my father-in-law in his house years ago.

@drm2m,

I have no idea where you found the strength to part with such treasures! My soul would have been in absolute agony, trying to decide what to trade, what to buy, and what to sacrifice for mere money.

You have indeed acquired real pieces of history in your dealings, magnificent pieces, but I must confess, you are a far stronger man than I would have been in such exchanges.

Wonderful collection, all of it.

With Utmost Sincerity, And Envy,
Unionblue