One, most units did not practice that much marksmanship so it was up to the individual. Some Commanders probably did order shoot the horses. Two, a horse can be as dumb as its rider so it might charge a bayonet. Mules not so much. Other horses will spook from almost anything. It would depend on the horse. It would be unusual for a Cavalry Man to charge into a line of bayonets. They would by nature try the flanks. Another point, the massed cavalry charge against infantry in formation (as in John Wayne) was not normal. In that case cavalry would probably fight dismounted.
Since Napoleonic War days, Infantry forming a square was the response to cavalry attacking infantry. However, this took a great deal of practice and placed the grouped infantry in danger of being struck by artillery.View attachment 340800
I have read of attempts/orders to form square, but I don't believe that I have ever read of them actually being used.That is a great picture of a square formation. That leads me to ask, how often or not was such a formation used in the ACW?
It was very rarely used . I think the most noted example was by Pettigrew's Brigade on July 1st at Gettysburg forming or attempting to form a square against a bluff charge by the 8th Illinois .That is a great picture of a square formation. That leads me to ask, how often or not was such a formation used in the ACW?
It was very rarely used . I think the most noted example was by Pettigrew's Brigade on July 1st at Gettysburg forming or attempting to form a square against a bluff charge by the 8th Illinois .
Since Napoleonic War days, Infantry forming a square was the response to cavalry attacking infantry. However, this took a great deal of practice and placed the grouped infantry in danger of being struck by artillery.View attachment 340800
European armies during the Napoleonic wars had units of heavy cavalry that used large horses and acted as shock troops against infantry and cavalry formations . They also had light cavalry such as Dragoons . US and Confederate cavalry were not generally suitable for heavy cavalry tactics and were often used more as light cavalry . There were many famous cavalry charges during the war and some were against infantry , but these were against relatively weak infantry positions . No doubt the rifled musket gave more range , but there is debate about how much more effective it actually was than smoothbore . The terrain was also a big consideration . During the Civil war there was much less wide open terrain than in Europe .Cavalry charges against infantry used more routinely in Napoleonic Wars. Was the main reason it wasn't used as often in the Civil War due to rifling and greater ranges?
If cavalry charges into infantry was a more common tactic during the Napoleonic Wars, what changed in the Civil War that made it an obsolete tactic? Was it rifling and greater ranges to get in a couple more effective volleys before the charge was on you?
Cavalry charges against infantry used more routinely in Napoleonic Wars. Was the main reason it wasn't used as often in the Civil War due to rifling and greater ranges?
If cavalry charges into infantry was a more common tactic during the Napoleonic Wars, what changed in the Civil War that made it an obsolete tactic? Was it rifling and greater ranges to get in a couple more effective volleys before the charge was on you?
just curious, what was the reason for taking out the yellow piping? was it some type of pride thing- hey we're not cavalry we're infantry?The definitive answer on the absence of the infantry square has to do with the relative lethality of Civil War artillery vs Napoleonic. It would have been suicidal to form a square within range of a battery of 12 pound Napoleons.
The reason you don't read of classic Marshall Nye at Waterloo type attacks is the increase in range for both infantry & artillery during the Civil War. A line of horse walked to the 100 yard range of smoothbore muskets. They then went into a gallop & within 30 yards; changed to run in order to hit the opposing force in good order & achieve maximum shock. Attempting that within the 300 yard effective range of rifle toting infantry would have been suicidal.
Horses balk at stepping over bodies as well as smashing into a formed line sprouting bayonets. As a result, European war horses were trained to kick out & leap with viciously flinging hoofs. Needless to say, Civil War cavalry had no time for such old school frivolities.
The vast majority of Civil War cavalry were trained as dragoons. In effect, they were mounted infantry. Buford's command that opened the Battle of Gettysburg was trained to fight dismounted. Wilder's Lightening Brigade took the mounted infantry concept to its logical conclusion. They did not carry sabers; instead they had axes. They even picked the yellow cavalry piping out of the uniforms they were issued.
General Stanley, who was brought in to organize the AoC cavalry was a traditionalist. He insisted on long hours of saber drill. Just how many horses had their ears lopped off, a common saber training occurrence, is not recorded.
Wilder’s men were emphatically not cavalrymen. They were mounted infantry. Initially, they carried hatchets instead of sabers. That experiment didn’t last very long, but the espri de corps certainly did.just curious, what was the reason for taking out the yellow piping? was it some type of pride thing- hey we're not cavalry we're infantry?