Trivia Game # 60 - Week 4

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Trivia Game # 60 - Week 4



Here are the questions for Week 4 of Game # 60


1. When a train carrying over 800 Confederate prisoners on their way to a northern prison camp collided with a freight train, a telegraph operator (possibly intoxicated) was determined to be responsible. Approximately fifty of the prisoners and at least sixteen Union soldiers were killed. Where (be specific) did this accident happen?
(Thanks to lauren777)



2. Graduating first in his class at West Point, he was most responsible for the Union Army's maps during the Atlanta Campaign. Name him.



3. A nineteenth century Supreme Court case named for an anti-war Northerner has in recent years been invoked in regard to a modern day case of a Guantanamo prisoner. Give the full name of the anti-war Northerner for whom the high court case is named.



4. In the Union Army, what was the standard prescribed daily amount (in pounds) of fodder required for a horse?



5. There is no evidence that he had a secret recipe or discovered a new world, but this Georgia Military Institute graduate who was wounded at Spotsylvania and captured at Saylor's Creek didn't loose his head in battle. It was finally lost at Green and Washington in 1936. Name him.



Answers are due by 6pm (eastern) on Saturday, May 16. Good Luck and happy Mother's Day!
 
Since we have not had a problem with players posting answers for a few weeks now, maybe whatever that glitch was has gone away.

If you have any concern that your answers might not have posted, please continue to PM me after you post.
 
trivia Answers

1) King and Fuller's Cut - Near Shohola, PA
2) William Emery Merrill
3) John Henry Merryman INCORRECT
4) 12 pounds of Grain and 14 pounds of fodder
5) Christopher Columbus Sanders
Larry Gebing
 
1. Shohola, PA
2. Capt. William Emory Merrill
3. Clement Laird Vallandigham
4. 26 pounds per day (14 pounds of hay and 12 pounds of grain)
5. Col. C.C. Sanders
 
1. King & Fuller's Cut, Shohola Township, Pike County, Pennsylvania
2. James Birdseye MacPherson INCORRECT
3. Lambdin P. Milligan
4. 26 pounds
5. Colonel Christopher Columbus Sanders
 
1. The King and Fuller's Cut, near Shohola, Pennsylvania

2. Capt. William Emory Merrill

3. Lambdin Purdy Milligan

4. 26 pounds (14 of hay; 12 of grain)

5. Nope, beaten on this one. INCORRECT
 
Answers for Week 4 of Game #60:



1. Shohola, Pennsylvania


http://www.shohola.com/trainwreck/


http://www3.gendisasters.com/pennsy...-civil-war-prisoner-train-disaster,-july-1864


http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/shohola.Html


http://civilwartalk.com/forums/camp...cussions/21962-great-shohola-train-wreck.html


http://www.poconohistory.com/PikeCounty.htm


http://explorepahistory.com/hmarker.php?markerId=667


http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/elmiraprison/boydarticle.html


http://www.elmiraprisoncamp.com/articles/chemung/boyd.html


http://www.civilwaralbum.com/misc11/shohola1.htm

(thanks for the specificity, I just didn't want someone to just say "Pennsylvania".)


2. William Emory Merrill


http://warhistorian.org/blog1/index.php?entry=entry050823-175440


http://historicalephemera.com/index...l-war-field-maps&catid=37:civil-war&Itemid=57


http://www.sacramentocwrt.com/newsletters/1108 BattleCry.pdf


http://books.google.com/books?id=ZH63_gUdUaEC&pg=PA105&dq="The+Art+of+Command"++merrill


http://books.google.com/books?id=F8...X-lZsG&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/30/maps-key-to-union-victories/print/




3. Lambdin Purdy Milligan


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambdin_P._Milligan


http://www.soc.umn.edu/~samaha/cases/milligan_copperhead_conspirator.htm


http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/warandtreaty.htm


http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Hamdan+case:+a+victory+for+individual+rights-a0149023232


http://uspolitics.about.com/od/supremecourt/a/hamdan_rumsfeld.htm


http://www.kuwaitifreedom.org/supre...rs/hamdi_vs_rumsfeld_secretary_of_defense.php


http://supreme.justia.com/us/542/507/case.html


I was looking for Milligan because his case is most often cited, but Clement Laird Vallandigham (ex parte Vallandigham) is also accepted:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/05-184.ZO.html

http://supreme.vlex.com/vid/hamdan-v-rumsfeld-320635


(ON "full name": I have decided to accept as "full name"s first, middle initial, last)

(On Larry's answer: I agonized about this answer. While ExParte Merryman is cited in a dissent by Scalia in Hamdi v. Rumsfeld, I find three issues which make it difficult to accept "John Henry Merryman". 1) It is not clear that he was a "northerner", this is Maryland, after all, Mason-Dixon, etc. 2) Can one be "anti-war" who engages in violent acts against one of the armies? Good luck trying to explain that to the draft board when you claim to be a conscientious objector. 3) The question asked for a full name. Above I have indicated that first, last, and middle initial would be accepted. What cannot be accepted is an invented middle name (or initial). The Merryman in Ex parte Merryman was "John Merryman", no middle name. While I could give Larry the benefit of the doubt on issues 1 and 2, I just cannot on issue 3.)




4. 26 pounds


http://ehistory.osu.edu/osu/sources/recordview.cfm?content=/126/0236


http://www.reillysbattery.org/Newsletter/Jul00/deborah_grace.htm


http://www.usregulars.com/regs_159.html


http://www.history.army.mil/StaffRide/1st Bull Run/Logistics.htm


http://www.qmfound.com/citypt.htm


http://books.google.com/books?id=yr...S--aID&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7


http://www.landscaper.net/artillery.htm


http://rufusingalls.tripod.com/Shoes_horses.htm


http://www.historynet.com/americas-civil-war-horses-and-field-artillery.htm


http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cescott/parks/chick2.html


http://books.google.com/books?id=2m...iWvZcG&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1



http://www.cincinnaticwrt.org/data/ccwrt_history/talks_text/starr_cavalry_tactics.html


http://books.google.com/books?id=hg...3I5J8G&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1


http://books.google.com/books?id=xb...3I5J8G&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9



5. Colonel Christopher Columbus Sanders


http://www.historicmarkers.com/ga/2468-hall/75289-col-christopher-columbus-sanders


http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertlz/2130998866/


http://books.google.com/books?id=ht...jtgaMD&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSob=c&GSlh=1&GRid=31359411


http://www.suite101.com/discussion.cfm/civil_war/92074


http://dlg.galileo.usg.edu/meta/html/dlg/vang/meta_dlg_vang_hal240.html?Welcome


http://books.google.com/books?id=Gs...vC8aID&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5







Here are the scores after Week 4 of Game #60:

FIRST DIVISION

Sarladaise - 19
natek1029 - 9
Rad2duhbone53 - 0
Susan Sweet - 0


SECOND DIVISION

lauren777 - 20
Sockknitter - 17
Oxkern - 16
Larry - 16
Hoosier - 12
kate_09 - 4


Thanks for playing. See you next week!
 
Appeal on question 4

My source for my answer was
http://books.google.com/books?id=hg...nMWUCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2

This states that the supply train carried 12 pounds of grain per horse, which left the remaining fourteen pounds of hay or fodder in the horses' standard of twenty-six pounds to be foraged.

I didn't intend to starve old Dobbin - he was going to get his 12 pounds of grain in addition to his 14 pounds of fodder. However, I interpreted your question to be asking specifically for the number of pounds of fodder, rather than the combined number of pounds of fodder and grain. That was why my answer was 14.
 
The term "fodder" was used because it is a generic term for food for livestock.

"coarse food for livestock, composed of entire plants, including leaves, stalks, and grain, of such forages as corn and sorghum"

""Fodder" includes hay, straw, litter, grass, grass seed, green crop, grain, corn, any type of stock food and the manure of any stock."

Your source (a source I also used) continues: "the horses' standard of twentysix pounds'. (italics mine)

Your answer would seem to equate "fodder" with "hay".

My generic "fodder" is found in this source:
http://books.google.com/books?id=yr...S--aID&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7

Larry's answer seems to have covered both points of view without violating the multiple answer rule!

Well, we may just be splitting horse hairs here, so I'll give you the point.
 
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