Edged Wpns Tiffany markings

[bayonet]

Well on my Scabbard drag post someone went on about a Tiffany sword. So on mine I noticed the PDL stamp missing on the opposite side of the Tiffany & Co New York stamp. Anyone else encounter this or maybe the PDL has been scratched off for some reason? Jim

 

[steamboater]

Well on my Scabbard drag post someone went on about a Tiffany sword. So on mine I noticed the PDL stamp missing on the opposite side of the Tiffany & Co New York stamp. Anyone else encounter this or maybe the PDL has been scratched off for some reason? JimView attachment 394931View attachment 394932

Nope, not on the one I own; the PDL is prominent.

I am not aware of any other manufacturer of Tiffany's cavalry sabers.

 

[bobinwmass]

Could the PDL cartouche be under the blade washer on yours? The letters were surrounded by a "serrated oval" is the only way I can think to describe it. Looks like the top os something may be showing under your blade washer.

 

[UCVRelics]

The PDL could be hiding under the washer which is EZ to pull up, but they were normally a little higher up on the blade. Sometime they were struck weak and would get worn off especially on the model 1840 cav sword Tiffany sold. Take a piece of paper and lay it on the blade where the PDL would be and rub it with a pencil. The Tiffany stamp is right as rain and you can always tell with the curly bottom to the Y's.

photo courtesy of Harry Ridgeway

 

[bobinwmass]

The PDL could be hiding under the washer which is EZ to pull up, but they were normaly a little higher up on the blade. Sometime they were struck weak and would get worn off especially on the model 1840 which is the only cav sword Tiffany sold. Take a piece of paper and lay it on the blade where the PDL would be a nd rub it with a pencil. The Tiffany stamp is right as rain and you can always tell with the curly bottom to the Y's.

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photo courtesy of Harry Ridgeway

Actually Tiffany also sold two types of the English Pattern 1821 cavalry sabers to the United States Ordnance Department early in the war. One was marked T. C., the other had the Tiffany name and address spelled out, like on the iron hilted 1840.

 

[UCVRelics]

Actually Tiffany also sold two types of the English Pattern 1821 cavalry sabers to the United States Ordnance Department early in the war. One was marked T. C., the other had the Tiffany name and address spelled out, like on the iron hilted 1840.

They did indeed but this ain't one of those models. Tiffany did not make any of their swords, but just stamped their name on them. They imported some very nice officers swords and they would do the etching etc.

 

[bobinwmass]

They did indeed but this ain't one of those models. Tiffany did not make any of their swords, but just stamped their name on them. They imported some very nice officers swords and they would do the etching etc.

I am aware the saber this thread is about is not one of the 1821 pattern sabers, and that Tiffany imported all their cavalry sabers. But you said the Model 1840 is the only cavalry saber Tiffany sold, then edited your post to remove that after my response.

 

[UCVRelics]

That I did, as your response is incorrect. The sword post is a model 1840 so I guess in the future I need to be more pacific for y'all Hang on, let me edit this Tillman I suppose?

 

[bobinwmass]

That I did, as your response is incorrect. The sword post is a model 1840 so I guess in the future I need to be more pacific for y'all Hang on, let me edit this Tillman I suppose?

I'll take the high road.

 

[bayonet]

Well I removed the washer carefully and appeared nothing was there even after attempting to clear it but hard to tell. It looks like the PDL was scraped off (maybe worn) and I did the pencil & paper rub you mentioned and still nothing. Maybe the Trooper hated a foreign mark on his blade and removed it, much like I hate getting stuff that says MADE IN CHINA. So I remove that too if I can!