Thaddeus Stevens

[BillO]

Hmmmm...then all those speeches and meetings, newspaper articles.. were just wasted effort?

Kevin Dally

You're thinking of those guys as some official leader of their socio economic class. They were politicians, it's what they do, they tell people what they think people want to hear. That's what they do. It's what they have always done.

 

[James B White]

It's a "sinister plot" to the the slaves. One needs to keep that direction in mind.

Were you counting slaves in the "non slaving owning class"? If so, then yes, slaves needed to be taught that slavery was good for them as a race. But I don't see that non-slaving-owning whites necessarily needed to be taught that slavery of blacks was good for them.

 

[dvrmte]

The planter class did a lot to include the non slave owning white populous in their racial ideology. Though many may not be slave owners, they were far above the lowly slave. The common denominator was fear that slavery would end. The planter class made sure that everyone understood the ramifications of THAT!

Kevin Dally

The planter class in South Carolina was working the media to herd the non slave owning class into their ideological corral. In light of the fact that the planter class wanted, and worked towards secession, that is part of a "sinister plot"!

Kevin Dally

Kevin, I'm on the last chapter of the book on South Carolina I quoted previously. Whenever I get it finished and I have the time, I'll create some threads.

The common denominator between the planter class and yeoman farmer was Democratic Republican ideals of land ownership, and self-sufficiency. Slavery enhanced those ideals by eliminating a white laboring class. There were no conflicts between labor and capital in South Carolina and no close attachment to national political parties that tended to divide a state, undermine it's unity and weaken it's voice in national politics. For such a small state, South Carolina had a huge voice in national politics because of that unity.

 

[jgoodguy]

You're thinking of those guys as some official leader of their socio economic class. They were politicians, it's what they do, they tell people what they think people want to hear. That's what they do. It's what they have always done.

In my experience, wealthy socio-economic groups influences the political elites to enrich those groups even more.

 

[Tin cup]

Kevin, I'm on the last chapter of the book on South Carolina I quoted previously. Whenever I get it finished and I have the time, I'll create some threads.

The common denominator between the planter class and yeoman farmer was Democratic Republican ideals of land ownership, and self-sufficiency. Slavery enhanced those ideals by eliminating a white laboring class. There were no conflicts between labor and capital in South Carolina and no close attachment to national political parties that tended to divide a state, undermine it's unity and weaken it's voice in national politics. For such a small state, South Carolina had a huge voice in national politics because of that unity.

A unity headed for the downfall of secession, though.

Kevin Dally

 

[BillO]

In my experience, wealthy socio-economic groups influences the political elites to enrich those groups even more.

In my experience they are one and the same.