T. Miller button

[txrelichunter]

Hey guys. New member here. Hoping for better feed back than some of the other forums I visit. I have what I believe is a
T. Miller button. However I can't find any information on it. Any and all info would be appreciated.

 

[Rusk County Avengers]

Hey guys. New member here. Hoping for better feed back than some of the other forums I visit. I have what I believe is a
T. Miller button. However I can't find any information on it. Any and all info would be appreciated.

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Well allow me to welcome you from the Books, Movie, and TV Discussion Forum!

As for your button I'd say it looks to be a bona fide T. Miller "Block I" button. T. Miller's are always great buttons to have! I however am not personally the most knowledgeable on them, however what I do know is that T. Miller was based out of Houston, TX and supplied a lot of buttons to the Houston Depot that made uniforms. The versions were "I" "C" "A" and the more famous "star CS" versions. Sorry I don't know more but I reckon someone here knows more about them than myself.

 

[USS ALASKA]

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[UCVRelics]

Welcome From THE Heart Of Dixie. Nice one. I hope thats just water on it. Does it have the T Miller back-mark as some of the early ones had it and are sometimes hard to see. We had a great thread on the T Millers buttons. T.E.Miller produced buttons during the Civil War operating out of Houston Texas.

https://civilwartalk.com/threads/texas-militia-artillery-button.158520/#post-2064117

 

[James N.]

Welcome to the forums from the host of the Stonewall Jackson Forum and another collector!

 

[captaindrew]

Welcome from South Florida and the Reenactors Forum, nice find!

 

[tbuckley]

Welcome from eastern Ohio.

 

[gentlemanrob]

welcome from General Lee's forum and NE Georgia!

 

[Package4]

Welcome from Maryland!

 

[txrelichunter]

Wow! Thanks all. The button was dug north west of Houston. Where there was actively from the Texas Revolution, Civil War and Custer/post war. The button war only cleaned with a toothpick and olive oil. There is no back mark that I can see. It is heavy and maybe brass. (not sure). I know it looks to be T. Miller which was made in Houston during the war. I haven't seen this button on the interweb. I think it's fairly rare. I would love to know where I can get more information on T. Miller and this verity of button, I for infantry. Any and all help is appreciated.

Rich

 

[Rusk County Avengers]

Sounds about right, it should be cast brass. Unlike some more famous button manufacturers, T. Miller's are simple cast brass, and are heavy compared to the more widely known buttons.

If it was found NW of Houston I think it safe to say it came out of one the many camps in that area, my first guesses would be Camp Groce, Camp Waul or Camp Felder, but I think they're NE of Houston if I remember right. I've not been to that part of the country in some time.

There were camps and stops along roads to important places all over the place down yonder. Once again, great find on your part!

 

[UCVRelics]

Welcome From THE Heart Of Dixie. Nice one. I hope thats just water on it. Does it have the T Miller back-mark as some of the early ones had it and are sometimes hard to see. We had a great thread on the T Millers buttons. T.E.Miller produced buttons during the Civil War operating out of Houston Texas.

https://civilwartalk.com/threads/texas-militia-artillery-button.158520/#post-2064117

It is a T Miller and made of brass. Below are 2 books all button collectors should have.

 

[txrelichunter]

Sounds about right, it should be cast brass. Unlike some more famous button manufacturers, T. Miller's are simple cast brass, and are heavy compared to the more widely known buttons.

If it was found NW of Houston I think it safe to say it came out of one the many camps in that area, my first guesses would be Camp Groce, Camp Waul or Camp Felder, but I think they're NE of Houston if I remember right. I've not been to that part of the country in some time.

There were camps and stops along roads to important places all over the place down yonder. Once again, great find on your part!

Camp Groce is very close to this area. There were various camps and muster stations in the area. And in Houston.

 

[txrelichunter]

Does anyone know of any websites speaking about TE Miller? Information on the web is scarce as well as the buttons

 

[Ole Miss]

Welcome from the Shiloh/Pittsburg Landing Forum and North Mississippi! Be sure and visit the Forum soon.
Regards
David

 

[UCVRelics]

Does anyone know of any websites speaking about TE Miller? Information on the web is scarce as well as the buttons

They are only a few as most info on T Miller as well as other CS makers are in books. Below is one that the info I already sent you came from.
http://www.relicman.com/buttons/Button9900-Backmark-Index.html

 

[txrelichunter]

Yeah, I've been on that site and there's a few others but information is very limited. I'm very interested in knowing more about Mr. TE Miller and his button making "factory".. I believe some were field cast. Which could explain that some were also made of lead. Although their are claims the lead are counterfeits.

 

[Package4]

Yeah, I've been on that site and there's a few others but information is very limited. I'm very interested in knowing more about Mr. TE Miller and his button making "factory".. I believe some were field cast. Which could explain that some were also made of lead. Although their are claims the lead are counterfeits.

Your button appears to indeed be a T Miller CSI280 as identified in Tice What a great find! You are correct, there were some Cav buttons as I recall that a group decided to "manufacture" and bury, to be dug up a decade or so later. Image a few hundred $300 buttons, what a supplement to retirement. IIRC the plan was to salt a few in legitimate areas and then have the "button garden" when the news hit of the new button. I think someone ratted them out thankfully...…...

 

[UCVRelics]

This is one of the biggest one of the T Miller fake group.

 

[txrelichunter]

Thanks for you information. The CS button (image) is the most common T. Miller I have found on the net. I've only seen the one "A" T. Miller and that is one Tennessee Relics I believe is selling for 1800-1900 hundred retail. I have yet to find the "I" T. Miller on the net. So you are finding it the Tice book? Does it say common or anything as to how common it may or may not be? Is there any information on T. Miller himself?