Swords civil war?

[Rogge]

Hi guys , i am thinking of buying these swords. Are they related to the civil war and how much should i pay for them?

 

[EzraLewis]

I don't know much about freemasons, but those look freemason.

 

[bayonet]

No thanks I'd pass on them

 

[bobinwmass]

They are not Civil War. The first is a fraternal sword, the second a post CW version of the Model 1860 Staff Officer sword.

 

[Rogge]

Thanks , you saved me from buying something i dont want

 

[Jeff in Ohio]

The FCB marked one is for the Knights of Pythias, and those initials are from their motto.
More fraternal organizations than you can imagine used swords as part of their regalia.
I found on line an alphabetical list of American Fraternal Organizations, and it is quite a list. One is local to me here in central Ohio:

• Fraternal Order of Moai – Founded in 2005 in Columbus, Ohio. Using Moai iconography and open to men and women, it was initially created with a goal of the preservation of tiki culture, especially historical information about and artifacts from the Kahiki Supper Club in Columbus.[105][106]

I don't see they have swords, but they do have a snazzy fez:

 

[52ndFandS]

I met a guy who bought a post-war sword without any research. It was sitting in the wash sink in his garage. I know it wasn't one but it was a sad place for it to end up.

It looked very much like the first photo.

 

[Salterr]

There are some sword books by Thillman that will be your best friend in the sword collecting arena. They are pricey but well worth it to avoid the headache of buying bad pieces.

 

[52ndFandS]

There are some sword books by Thillman that will be your best friend in the sword collecting arena. They are pricey but well worth it to avoid the headache of buying bad pieces.

Thanks for in the info.

 

[bayonet]

The FCB marked one is for the Knights of Pythias, and those initials are from their motto.
More fraternal organizations than you can imagine used swords as part of their regalia.
I found on line an alphabetical list of American Fraternal Organizations, and it is quite a list. One is local to me here in central Ohio:

• Fraternal Order of Moai – Founded in 2005 in Columbus, Ohio. Using Moai iconography and open to men and women, it was initially created with a goal of the preservation of tiki culture, especially historical information about and artifacts from the Kahiki Supper Club in Columbus.[105][106]

I don't see they have swords, but they do have a snazzy fez:

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nice Fez looks like the one Fred Flintstone & Barney Rubble worn at the Grand Pubba meetings. Oh wait didn't theirs have horns?

 

[52ndFandS]

nice Fez looks like the one Fred Flintstone & Barney Rubble worn at the Grand Pubba meetings. Oh wait didn't theirs have horns?

 

[R. Porter]

There is a fraternal sword book and I think I found the sword in your photo, although your photo didn't give a lot to go on. You showed the back and the book shows the front. There was another similar sword in the book but I based my decision mainly on a match between the part between the grip and the bottom of the knight's head.