State Enlistments

[Latigerreb]

Been searching and can not find a list or report on the breakdown of the total number of soldiers enlisting and serving in the Union Army - by state or territory, colored troops, regular Army (ie. New York 500,000 soldiers, colored 210,000, regular, 60,000 etc etc. [This is just an example, not sure what i will find]) . Thought I saw one earlier, but can not seem to find it.

JIM Tebbetts

PS - if there is a better location, moderator please move.

 

[ole]

This place will do just fine, JIM.

Ole

 

[John Gross]

Been searching and can not find a list or report on the breakdown of the total number of soldiers enlisting and serving in the Union Army - by state or territory, colored troops, regular Army (ie. New York 500,000 soldiers, colored 210,000, regular, 60,000 etc etc. [This is just an example, not sure what i will find]) . Thought I saw one earlier, but can not seem to find it.

JIM Tebbetts

PS - if there is a better location, moderator please move.

William F. Fox's "Regimental Losses in the Civil War" will have all that info and more. I believe if you buy the OR on CD it usually comes with Fox's Regimental Losses.

John Gross

 

[M E Wolf]

Dear Latigerreb;

I Have Fox's Regimental Losses as well as Dyers Compendium.

If you have a specific state, I'll do my best to look it up and provide you with what I have. I'll add that it is mostly Union stats.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
M. E. Wolf

FOX'S REGIMENTAL LOSSES
CHAPTER V.
DEATHS FROM ALL CAUSES.
Cause. Officers. Enlisted Men. Aggregate.
Killed, or died of wounds 6,365 103,705 110,070
Died of disease 2,712 197,008 199,790
In Confederate prisons (*) 83 24,783 24, 866
Accidents 142 3,972 4,114
Drowning 106 4,838 4, 944
Sunstrokes 5 308 313
Murdered 37 483 520
Killed after capture 14 90 104
Suicide 26 365 391
Military executions 267 267
Executed by the enemy 4 60 64
Causes known, but unclassified 62 1,972 2,034
Cause not stated 28 12,093 12,121
Aggregate 9, 584 349, 944 359,528
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Dyer's Compendium, Pt. 1 (Campaigns etc.)
SUMMARY OF TROOPS FURNISHED
Summary of Troops Furnished by the Several States and Territories During the War of the Rebellion
STATES AND TERRITORIES. WhiteTroops. SailorsandMarines. ColoredTroops. IndianNations. Aggregate. TotalDeaths,All Causes.
Alabama 2,578 .... .... 2,578 345
Arkansas 8,289 .... .... .... 8,289 1,713
California 15,725 .... .... .... 15,725 573
Colorado 4,903 .... .... .... 4,903 323
Connecticut 51,937 2,163 1,784 .... 55,864 5,354
Dakota 206 .... .... .... 206 6
Delaware 11,236 94 954 .... 12,284 882
District of Columbia 11,912 1,353 3,269 .... 16,534 290
Florida 1,290 .... .... .... 1,990 215
Georgia .... .... .... .... .... 15
Illinois 255,057 2,224 1,811 .... 259,092 34,834
Indiana 193,748 1,078 1,537 .... 196,363 26,672
Iowa 75,797 5 440 .... 76,242 13,001
Kansas 18,069 .... 2,080 .... 20,149 2,630
Kentucky 51,743 314 23,703 .... 75,760 10,774
Louisiana 5,224 .... .... .... 5,224 945
Maine 64,973 5,030 104 .... 70,107 9,398
Maryland 33,995 3,925 8,718 .... 46,638 2,982
Massachusetts 122,781 19,983 2,966 .... 146,730 13,942
Michigan 85,479 498 1,387 .... 87,364 14,753
Minnesota 23,913 3 104 .... 24,020 2,584
Mississippi 545 .... .... .... 545 78
Missouri 100,616 151 8,344 .... 109,111 13,885
Nebraska 3,157 .... .... .... 3,157 239
Nevada 1,080 .... .... .... 1,080 33
New Hampshire 32,930 882 125 .... 33,937 4,882
New Jersey 67,500 8,129 1,185 .... 76,814 5,754
New Mexico 6,561 .... .... .... 6,561 277
New York 409,561 35,164 4,125 .... 448,850 46,534
North Carolina 3,156 .... .... .... 3,156 360
Ohio 304,814 3,274 5,092 .... 313,180 35,475
Oregon 1,810 .... .... .... 1,810 45
Pennsylvania 315,017 14,307 8,612 .... 337,936 33,183
Rhode Island 19,521 1,878 1,837 .... 23,236 1,321
Tennessee 31,092 .... .... .... 31,092 8,777
Texas 1,965 .... .... .... 1,965 141
Vermont 32,549 619 120 .... 33,288 5,224
Virginia .... .... .... .... .... 42
Washington Territory 964 .... .... .... 964 22
West Virginia 31,872 133 196 .... 32,068 4,017
Wisconsin 91,029 .... 165 .... 91,327 12,301
Indian Nations .... .... .... 3,530 3,530 1,018
Regular Army .... .... .... .... .... 5,798
Colored Troops .... .... (*)99,337 .... 99,337 (**)36,847
Veteran Volunteers .... .... .... .... .... 106
U.S. Volunteers(+) .... .... .... .... .... 243
U.S. Sharpshooters and Engineers .... .... .... .... .... 552
Veteran Reserves .... .... .... .... .... 1,672
Generals and Staff .... .... .... .... .... 239
Miscellaneous--Bands, etc .... .... .... .... .... 232
2,494,592 101,207 178,975 3,530 2,778,304 359,528
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Dakota had the fewest troops and fewest deaths recorded according to Dyer's.
New York had the most
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Latigerreb--you may want to copy the post and carry it onto Notepad/Wordpad, etc; then line up the columns. This format just makes scrambled columns and can drive one batty as its out of uniformed columns.

Respectfully submitted,
M. E. Wolf

 

[M E Wolf]

THOUGHT I WOULD PUT THE COVER INFORMATION OF THESE TWO BODIES OF WORKS THAT SUPPORT THE STATISTICS.
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BY FREDERICK H. DYER
Late 7th Connecticut Volunteers

INCLUDING
IN THREE DEPARTMENTS
THE MATTER AS HERE OUTLINED

Organization of the several Military Divisions, Departments, Armies, Army Corps,
Divisions, Brigades and other important commands of the United States
Army formed during the War of the Rebellion, 1861-1865,
showing the Troops assigned to each and the
various Commanders of each Com-
mand from its formation
to its discon-
tinuance.

A complete Record of the Battles, Engagements, Combats, Actions,
Skirmishes and Important Operations, tabulated by States and showing
the Union Troops engaged in each event

A
concise
History of each and
every Regiment, Battery,
Battalion and other Organizations
mustered by the several States for service
in the Union Army during the period referred to.

DES MOINES, IOWA
THE DYER PUBLISHING COMPANY

1908
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Regimental Losses In The American Civil War
1861-1865

A Treatise On The Extent And Nature Of The Mortuary Losses In The Union Regiments, With Full And Exhaustive Statistics Compiled From The Official Records On File In The State Military Bureaus And At Washington.

By William F. Fox, Lt. Col., U.S. V.

President Of The Society Of The Twelfth Army Corps; Late President Of The 10th N.Y. Veteran
Volunteers' Association; And Member Of The New York Historical Society.

Albany, N.Y.
Albany Publishing Company
1889

COPYRIGHT BY WILLIAM F. FOX 1889

RANDOW PRINTING COMPANY
ALBANY, N.Y.

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Giving credit where credit is due.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
M. E. Wolf

 

[16thVA]

Those West Virginia numbers should be retired. I see them everywhere, and they are totally wrong. Those are the numbers reported by the WV Adjutant General, and include not only re-enlistments, but thousands of Ohio and Pennsylvania soldiers. The Union numbers for West Virginia are in the low 20,000's. When the new state minted medals for the Union soldiers they only minted 26,000. So re-enlistments account for about 6,000 of the approximately 32,000. Ohio alone accounts for nearly 5,000 (see Whitelaw Reid 'Ohio in the War', vol. 2, pg. 3). Deduct about 2,000 for Pennsylvania and you are down to 19,000. The 1st WV Cavalry was composed of only 32% West Virginians. The 2nd WV Cavalry was almost all Ohio. Union numbers from the Border States are very untrustworthy. I know that at least 2 KY regiments were recruited in Ohio.

 

[M E Wolf]

Dear 16thVA;

Thank you for your post. It is unfortunate that the numbers are in dispute however, the only way they can be amended is through the military archivists that can publish a supplemental.

I also wish to welcome you to CivilWarTalk.

I look forward to your future postings here and in many of the forums here.

I must warn you though; there will be times the software will net a naughty word or more. It will appear in your post as a ***** . Moderators have no control over it but; one of the most frequent 'word' caught in the net is: f-u-r-t-h-e-r. LOL Go figure. It is an innocent word and its caught a lot. So, if you see a word you know is innocent, like fu-rt-her or, General C-um-mings and or ship's s-cr-ew; just go back to your original post, hit the edit button and insert a few well placed hyphens if you will.

Another thing we're finding; is that some names are shared by other states, same with roads. So, if you will - when you are talking about Arlington, please denote which one-- Arlington, Virginia, Arlington, Texas, etc. Columbia Pike, is another common road term; so it would help to know where this road is--Virginia or elsewhere. That way, we're able to follow your topic/words/comments and observations.

Please know there are no quotas but, certainly want to hear from you. Post when you feel comfortable in doing so and at your own speed.

References are wonderful if you have them. It is great to go to the same book, page and read as another poster has; to read all of what that page has to offer. I like official records myself. So, I post all the information I can as to share. I see you have given excellent references already, to this does help very much.

Personal opinions and comments are welcomed also. So, don't feel this forum requires only references as to post comments about.

Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
M. E. Wolf

 

[ole]

Good stuff to know, 16th. There's room at the cash bar for you. If you don't have cash, the barkeep will accept such posts as payment.

Ole

 

[16thVA]

Thank you Ole and Wolf, you are very kind. I would like to pay for my bar tab, though, with good references. Here is Charles Ambler, writing in 1905. He was the dean of WV historians. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2d6us8l&s=4

And here is the analysis of the 1st WV Cavalry from the George Tyler Moore Center in Shepherdstown.
http://www.shepherd.edu/gtmcweb/research_papers.html

West Virginia was unique among the border states in that it did not give a majority of its soldiers to the Union. James Carter Linger's study "Confederate Military Units of West Virginia" estimates Confederate numbers to be close to 22,000, which will undoubtedly surprise some people. The Confederate Dept. of Western Virginia had nearly 19,000 on the books officially, so it doesn't seem that much of a stretch.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2cru35d&s=4

Thanks again for your kind welcome.

 

[Latigerreb]

Thanks

Dear Latigerreb;
I Have Fox's Regimental Losses as well as Dyers Compendium.
Latigerreb--you may want to copy the post and carry it onto Notepad/Wordpad, etc; then line up the columns. This format just makes scrambled columns and can drive one batty as its out of uniformed columns.
Respectfully submitted,
M. E. Wolf

Mr Wolf, what you provided is exactly what I needed. mostly as it relates to enlistments. I found a web site with executions in the Union Army, and wanted to see who had the most, as a proportion of the troops provided.
Thanks for your assistance
JIM T