smith carbine

[varmintman]

hi, i'm a new member this is my 1st post. I just got a smith carbine ser # 1531,bought it at an auction, its being shipped to me. I collect Baltimore firearms. I need to know if and what info someone could give me, all I have is the serial #, also I intend on shooting it, will need info on where and what I need to reload ammo and any other info. thanks, robert it was made by American machine works

 

[johan_steele]

Lodgewood will have everything you need to live fire it. As for S/N info on a Smith I don't know.

 

[JOHN42768]

hi, i'm a new member this is my 1st post. I just got a smith carbine ser # 1531,bought it at an auction, its being shipped to me. I collect Baltimore firearms. I need to know if and what info someone could give me, all I have is the serial #, also I intend on shooting it, will need info on where and what I need to reload ammo and any other info. thanks, robert it was made by American machine works

Welcome, The Smith was made as either Cavalry(sling bar) or Artillery(sling swivel). Poultney& Trimble were the agents out of Baltimore, but they were manufactured all in Mass. by either Mass. Arms in Chicopee Falls, American Machine Works in Springfield or American Arms in Chicopee Falls. Approx. 31000 were manufactured and used by about six Union regiments and some C.S.A. units. Your serial number is not among the small listings in SRS books. A decent inexpensive ($15.00) book you might like is "Carbines of the Civil War" by John McAulay. I just purchased a Smith also , won't see it for another month till all paid off. Listen to Johan and read other postings. John

 

[Jobe Holiday]

A few thoughts on Smith Carbines: When researching serial numbers you have to keep in mind that there are triplicate serial numbers, because all three companies began numbering at #1, and then consecutively through the end of their respective production runs. When you find a matching number you have to look at when that number was recorded, note which manufacturer your Smith is made by, and compare the delivery dates to the recorded serial number to see if your Smith was delivered later than the recorded date you have found. Believe me when I tell you that the Smith serial numbers recorded are nearly all Mass. Arms manufactured carbines.

As for shooting it, I would suggest you take a look at the N-SSA.org web site's Bulletin Board. Using their archive research, or registering to post a question, you will find more information on shooting Smith Carbines than you ever imagined was available. Those guys have been shooting Smith Carbines competitively for over 50 years!
J.

 

[James N.]

Welcome to the forums and congratulations on your find!

 

[Private Watkins]

Welcome from Oklahoma and hope you enjoy your Smith...!

 

[varmintman]

Lodgewood will have everything you need to live fire it. As for S/N info on a Smith I don't know.

thanks for the info,i will contact them

 

[varmintman]

Welcome, The Smith was made as either Cavalry(sling bar) or Artillery(sling swivel). Poultney& Trimble were the agents out of Baltimore, but they were manufactured all in Mass. by either Mass. Arms in Chicopee Falls, American Machine Works in Springfield or American Arms in Chicopee Falls. Approx. 31000 were manufactured and used by about six Union regiments and some C.S.A. units. Your serial number is not among the small listings in SRS books. A decent inexpensive ($15.00) book you might like is "Carbines of the Civil War" by John McAulay. I just purchased a Smith also , won't see it for another month till all paid off. Listen to Johan and read other postings. John

thanks, I''ll buy the book today

 

[varmintman]

A few thoughts on Smith Carbines: When researching serial numbers you have to keep in mind that there are triplicate serial numbers, because all three companies began numbering at #1, and then consecutively through the end of their respective production runs. When you find a matching number you have to look at when that number was recorded, note which manufacturer your Smith is made by, and compare the delivery dates to the recorded serial number to see if your Smith was delivered later than the recorded date you have found. Believe me when I tell you that the Smith serial numbers recorded are nearly all Mass. Arms manufactured carbines.

As for shooting it, I would suggest you take a look at the N-SSA.org web site's Bulletin Board. Using their archive research, or registering to post a question, you will find more information on shooting Smith Carbines than you ever imagined was available. Those guys have been shooting Smith Carbines competitively for over 50 years!
J.

thanks for all your help,i'll look up that website

 

[kel1985]

Welcome from Pittsburgh! I have a coworker that bought a Smith about 10 years ago, to the best of my knowledge he hasn't fired it yet, so I can't help you with any info on loads etc.

 

[Package4]

From the Schuyler, Hartley & Graham catalog 1864

 

[varmintman]

From the Schuyler, Hartley & Graham catalog 1864

thanks for sending drawing from catalog

 

[Booner]

I have an original smith and have shot it using the plastic cartridge cases like Lodgewood advertises with a 50 cal. Bullet and 30 grains of 3f powder. It was a very accurate carbine. Not sure if my eyes are as accurate now

With a name like varmintman, do you shoot prairie dogs, or coyotes?

 

[varmintman]

I have an original smith and have shot it using the plastic cartridge cases like Lodgewood advertises with a 50 cal. Bullet and 30 grains of 3f powder. It was a very accurate carbine. Not sure if my eyes are as accurate now

With a name like varmintman, do you shoot prairie dogs, or coyotes?

i'll try what lodgewood suggest, carbine arriving via mail next week, i'll let everyone know how it shoots. I've been hunting woodchucks for over 45 years, just started hunting coyotes last year. we're overrun by them in Maryland. if you want one of my varmintman calanders send me your address. I have them made up every year, you'll love it