Rifle identification

[David B]

I have an old rifle that has been passed down in the family but has no stories from family members to go with it. I've taken it to local gun shops in my area but none of them seem to be able to give me a clue about its identity or any value. After reading other posts from members on this site I might be at the right place to learn some information. Thanks

 

[thomas aagaard]

Look like an Austrian Lorenz made in 1860.
Missing the fixed rear sights and ramrod.

 

[Tin cup]

A small bit of Lorenz History:
The Lorenz was the third most used rifle-musket during the American Civil War, with US purchases in excess of 250,000 and documented CS purchases of at least 100,000. While the conventional wisdom has long stated that the Lorenz's found in .54 with block sites were CS used and the ones in .58 with long range sites were US used. However, US Ordnance Records do not bear this out. The US Government recorded purchases of Lorenz's in .54, .55, .56, .57, .577, .58, and .59. This clearly indicates that although the US preference was to buy guns in .58 caliber, other calibers were accepted. US Ordnance records also indicate the purchase of guns with both leaf and block sites.

Kevin Dally
https://www.collegehillarsenal.com/shop/product.php?productid=1046&cat=0&page=1

 

[captaindrew]

Welcome to the forum and nice piece! Thanks for sharing it with us.

 

[William G Hendry]

Welcome

 

[Hussar Yeomanry]

Welcome from the UK and from the Bull Run/ Manassas Forum

 

[UCVRelics]

Welcome From THE Heart Of Dixie. It is indeed an Austrian Lorenz. Can you measure the bore diameter so we can determine what flavor it is.

 

[Larryh86GT]

Welcome from WNY

 

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Nice Lorenz that looks to have been propped in a corner of a damp basement.

 

[vmicraig]

Type LORENZ into the search box at the top of the forum and you'll find dozens of posts that will provide you more than you'd ever want to know abut your rifle. Thanks for posting.

 

[JOHN42768]

Welcome, enjoy

 

[tbuckley]

Welcome from eastern Ohio.

 

[David B]

Thanks for so many replies. I definitely found the right place to find info on my rifle. I think I will try to find someone who would be interested in using it in civil war re-enactments. I believe it has only seen 4 walls for at least the last 100 years and I'm sure it would like to comeback to life.

 

[Craig L Barry]

That particular M 1854 does not look like anything that should be live fired, even with blanks...