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Republican Generals

Discussion in 'Civil War History - Secession and Politics' started by OldBrainsHalleck, Mar 12, 2017.

  1. OldBrainsHalleck

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    From what I have read, a lot of officers in the Civil War on either side were Democrats. Were there any well-known officers who were Republican?
     
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    A few that come to mind are Fremont, Banks. Hunter, Curtis. Sigel, Schurz, Blair, Hurlbut, Washburne, Oglesby, Wadsworth, Pope, Prentiss, King, Cox
     
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    I know that Longstreet was Republican after the war as well.
     
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    After the war was different -- people like Grant, Logan, Butler all became Republicans.
     
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    Francis Blair of St. Louis, whose family built Blair House. He was a 'Wide-Awake' style Republican.
     
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    The Blairs were all Republicans, though they were part of the Conservative Faction, as opposed to the Radicals like Sumner, Wade, or Stevens.
     
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    Erasmus Keyes was a Republican. So were Abner Doubleday, David Birney, & O. O. Howard, I believe.
     
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    They were radical as far as Missourians were concerned. They conspired with other civilians to rob the St. Louis Arsenal and used the arms to outfit and arm hundreds of recent German immigrants. These were foreigners who were not only civilians, but had not yet become American citizens and harbored animosity toward their neighbors. The Blairs had the remaining arms transported across the river to Illinois in violation of an agreement between the State of Missouri and the U.S. Army. As this was happening they maneuvered to have the Officer in command of the Army's Western Dept., who was based in St. Louis removed and replaced by a radical junior Officer they had been conspiring with. That's radical in my book.
     
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    This is not exactly what happened. In conjunction with Captain Nathaniel Lyon of the U.S. Army, they moved most of the arms across the river under guard to keep them from falling into the hands of Secessionist Militia, who were known to have designs on the arsenal, having already raided and taken possession of one in Liberty, Missouri. They did also raise several regiments of German-Americans from the local community in St. Louis, who were known to be both anti-slavery and pro-Union. All of these actions had been authorized by officials in Washington.
     
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    Authorization after the fact is not authorization. The arsenal was raided and disposed when Lyon was a mere Company Commander. I believe he was still a Lt. at that time and recently arrived from Kansas. Neither Blair or Lyon, who joined Blair's Wide-Awake' movement as soon as he arrived from the Plains had authority to arm the Germans or anyone else. The Germans had no authority to form military units. The State of Missouri had first call on the contents of that arsenal under agreement with General Harney, in command of the Dept. of the West. Before the illegal actions of Blair and Lyon, Gen. Harney had promised Missouri Gov. Jackson that the arsenal would remain secure until the State called for its contents. The intent of the arsenal was to arm the Missouri Militia and the the State of Missouri, which at that point in time had not yet seceded.
     
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    Except that Captain Lyon (he was indeed a captain at that time) was in command at St. Louis, by nature of being the senior officer present after Harney's relief. There is also the fact that Governor Jackson was organizing secessionist militia (the Missouri Militia being under his command) and had already seized arms, as previously mentioned, at Liberty. Add on to this that Lyon had been ordered to "protect public property [the weapons and munitions of the arsenal]" and raise a loyal militia since the governor had refused to comply with Lincoln's call for troops to put down the Rebellion. This was part of the reason Harney had been relieved; he not carried out previous orders to raise the four required regiments. This was mentioned in the order from the War Department giving Lyon command, and it was directed that he raise the troops immediately. Lyon's actions to move the arms were thus justified by his order to "protect public property" and keep them out of the hands of secessionists, who were plotting to seize them for their own use. In short, the argument that Lyon's actions were unauthorized and illegal do not have a leg to stand on.

    Source.
     
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    Hoover, Howard, Burnside
     
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    Hoover? :wink:

    Ryan
     
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    You have it a bit wrong. Lyon had been transferred to St. Louis and on his own authority, in cooperation with Blair and the Wide Awakes marched his company to the Arsenal to "guard" it. Harney was still in command when Lyon diverted arms to the local Germans, as well as to Illinois and marched on State Militia's Camp Jackson. Its true that Harney was removed and Lyon placed in command of the Arsenal. However, Lyon did not succeed Harney's command of the Dept. The State of Missouri had every right to form a Militia and arm it from the Arsenal.
     
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    I see no evidence to indicate that Lyon had taken up residence at the arsenal without authorization, and it is clear that he was granted command of the arsenal and the line troops guarding it. Furthermore, there is no evidence that Lyon issued the German-American Unionist Militia arms before he was put in command. Lyon also did succeed Harney. There was brief confusion over who would succeed Harney, as the order for his relief only said that the senior officer present should assume command. There was a Major Hagner on site, but he was a brevet major only, and Lyon's commission as captain was dated prior to his. Thus, Lyon was the senior officer present, and took command lawfully. Lastly, as already pointed out, the militia in the form of the "State Troops" being utilized and organized by Jackson were attempting to take Missouri into the arms of the Rebellion, in spite of a prior vote by a convention to stick with the Union. Jackson had also refused to turn four regiments over for the use of the Federal government to put down the Rebellion. Thus, the state militia was clearly compromised and unreliable, and the Federal government had every right to guard its arsenal (it was a Federal arsenal and thus its contents were owned by the U.S. government) in St. Louis zealously from any incursion, especially since a small arsenal in Liberty had already been taken over by the secessionists.
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    Hooker :smile: Sorry
     
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    I figured that's what you meant. I just wanted to bust your chops a bit because that's what I do. :thumbsup:

    Ryan
     
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    General Jacob Dolson Cox was a Republican from Ohio. A reasonably competent, 'political general,' he served as President U.S. Grant's first Secretary of Interior.

    Cox was forced out over his refusal to support the Grant Administration's "pay-to-play" policy that required federal employees to kick back a portion of their salary to the Republican Party.
     
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    James Garfield was a brigade commander at Shiloh & was Rosecrans' chief of staff at Chickamauga.
     
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    Several Union generals in the Trans-Mississippi were staunch Republicans, including Curtis as mentioned above but there are several other notable ones.

    Maj. Gen. James G. Blunt, victor of Prairie Grove, Old Fort Wayne, Honey Springs, Devil's Backbone, and numerous small battles in the Trans-Mississippi was a staunch Republican and abolitionist.

    Brig. Gen. Samuel Rice, one of the best Union brigade commanders in the Trans-Mississippi, was the Republican Attorney General for the state of Iowa when he was commissioned a colonel of the 33rd Iowa in 1862.

    Brig. Gen. Powell Clayton was also a Republican and would become the Reconstruction governor of Arkansas. During the war he one of the most skilled Union cavalrymen in blue west of the Mississippi and his career included whipping a Confederate force that outnumbered him five to one at Pine Bluff.
     

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