Raising the flag

[CSA Today]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/2...nfederate-flag-high-above-5-amid-controversy/

 

[Michael t]

I Wish I was In Dixie.....

 

[KeyserSoze]

I Wish I was In Dixie.....

What's stopping you?

 

[Rebforever]

CSA Today, have you heard anything about this group putting the Confederate Flag up 95 20 miles apart?
Wont that be a blast if it happens?

 

[Michael t]

What's stopping you?

Will be in Virginia on Tuesday..

 

[cash]

Good luck finding the flag.

http://studycivilwar.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/v-a-f-l-a-g-g-e-r-spells-incompetent/

 

[Michael t]

Good luck finding the flag.

http://studycivilwar.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/v-a-f-l-a-g-g-e-r-spells-incompetent/

Pobodies Nerfect...

 

[Barrycdog]

That's a large group there. I don't recognize anyone. Lots of news crews.

 

[CSA Today]

CSA Today, have you heard anything about this group putting the Confederate Flag up 95 20 miles apart?
Wont that be a blast if it happens?

Rebforever,
I agree it would be great, but I haven't heard anything about placing the flags 20 miles apart. I do think we will see more and more large flags on major highways if the hostility toward all Confederate symbols continues apace.

 

[jgoodguy]

Rebforever,
I agree it would be great, but I haven't heard anything about placing the flags 20 miles apart. I do think we will see more and more large flags on major highways if the hostility toward all Confederate symbols continues apace.

In a few years, ragged tatters and bare flag poles as enthusiasm fades and money dries up. A drive up and down Alabama back roads and there are ribbons of faded red white and blue remnants of CSA and US flags draped from faded flag poles put up in some enthusiasm or another over the years.

 

[KeyserSoze]

Will be in Virginia on Tuesday..

Nice place to live, or so I've been told.

 

[John Hartwell]

Never was much interested in what was clearly just a big publicity stunt that would do the cause of respect for southern soldiers more harm than good. But, there are some who were apparently very much moved my the idea. I can feel sorry for these people. To suddenly realize that for all the yelling and demonstrating, and chest-beating, the leaders they were following didn't even care enough to exercise a little foresight must be excruciatingly embarrassing. Those doing the actual planning either didn't really care about the CBF, or displayed an incredible stupidity.

Those comics who enjoy ridiculing all things southern are grinning with anticipation right about now.

jno

 

[JPK Huson 1863]

Thank you, jno, exactly. " Those comics who enjoy ridiculing the south... ", and I'm extremely weary of corporations making a buck out of the whole thing, too- witness the ' characters ' they keep wading into marshes to find for cable shows, the less teeth the better. Heck you can leave this house here in Pennsylvania, sit in from of Walmart for 5 minutes on Saturday night, see 16 or 17 better matches, they just don't have the accent, who'd watch?

If anyone is mystified by what John Hartwell is referring to, it's the link cash posted- articles on how you just cannot see these flags from the highway- no one thought to go stand out there and check. And of course folks who do not get out of the chairs to do much of anything, anytime, for their own heritages, get to post comments. I'm not defending anything, perhaps the' anyones', it's just always too easy to be critical in the wrong ways of people who DO something. The comments after the article make me quesey- not so much objecting to the flag, I'd have thought that would understandably be the case. It really was ridiculing the people involved. I don't like that.

In this case, yes, the planners seem to have let a ton of folks down.

 

[CSA Today]

Thank you, jno, exactly. " Those comics who enjoy ridiculing the south... ", and I'm extremely weary of corporations making a buck out of the whole thing, too- witness the ' characters ' they keep wading into marshes to find for cable shows, the less teeth the better. Heck you can leave this house here in Pennsylvania, sit in from of Walmart for 5 minutes on Saturday night, see 16 or 17 better matches, they just don't have the accent, who'd watch?

If anyone is mystified by what John Hartwell is referring to, it's the link cash posted- articles on how you just cannot see these flags from the highway- no one thought to go stand out there and check. And of course folks who do not get out of the chairs to do much of anything, anytime, for their own heritages, get to post comments. I'm not defending anything, perhaps the' anyones', it's just always too easy to be critical in the wrong ways of people who DO something. The comments after the article make me quesey- not so much objecting to the flag, I'd have thought that would understandably be the case. It really was ridiculing the people involved. I don't like that.

In this case, yes, the planners seem to have let a ton of folks down.

With at least one piece of heavy equipment visible in the background it seems reasonable to think that work is not complete at the site.

 

[cash]

With at least one piece of heavy equipment visible in the background it seems reasonable to think that work is not complete at the site.

Or maybe the company it was leased from hasn't picked it up yet.

The pole is too short to begin with, even if there were no trees.

It's placed in a depression.

In order to see it a LOT of trees have to be removed, otherwise it's only going to be visible for about a second or so while the traffic whizzes by.

Do they have permission to remove the trees?

 

[Rebforever]

My hat is off to those that raised a great piece of American History, a flag for all to see and commemorate and to
celebrate the Heritage of the Confederate Soldiers who died for their beliefs.

SALUTE!

 

[Jamieva]

They're pretty much being laughed at in the local medis yesterday and today because you can't see it from 95 which was their stated goal. It's completely not visible on 95 south and they said you really have to be closely looking for it to get a brief glimpse northbound.

 

[AndyHall]

It's completely not visible on 95 south and they said you really have to be closely looking for it to get a brief glimpse northbound.

I tinkered with this in a GIS mapping program last night, and to open the sight lines for northbound drivers on I-95 to be able to see the flag for about 10 seconds, they'd have to clear another 2/3 of an acre, in addition to the strip along the roadway, roughly like this:

Remember that a car moving at 65 miles per hour will cover nearly 100 yards in just three seconds. Even if they completely clear the trees fronting the narrow strip where the flag is now, it's still going to be hidden from view until drivers are directly abreast of it, and then visible only for a second or two.

 

[jgoodguy]

Or maybe the company it was leased from hasn't picked it up yet.

The pole is too short to begin with, even if there were no trees.

It's placed in a depression.

In order to see it a LOT of trees have to be removed, otherwise it's only going to be visible for about a second or so while the traffic whizzes by.

Do they have permission to remove the trees?

I am beginning to wonder about the folks that installed the flag pole. Did they not inspect the site and mention it was too short.

 

[cash]

My hat is off to those that raised a great piece of American History, a flag for all to see and commemorate and to
celebrate the Heritage of the Confederate Soldiers who died for their beliefs.

SALUTE!

In actuality, the thing all can see is the complete incompetence of the folks behind this bit of buffoonery.

That whirring sound you hear is the sound of all those confederate soldiers turning over in their graves in embarrassment over their descendants', ... well, ... stupidity is the best word that applies.