Ammo Pulled Bullets

[DixieRifles]

Just returned from a short visit to Chickamauga with stops at other battlefields, such as Iuka and Davis Bridge. While on my trip I was searching for some relic solid shot from canister rounds for one of the CWT members. I didn't find any source for them, yet.
I stopped at North MS Civil War Relics in Burnsville, MS, where I bought some pulled bullets. One was unusual. The shop owner said it was a double-loaded bullet that had to be pulled.

Here is a view of that bullet with the other two bullets I bought. This shows both ends of this bullet---the center one.
I would like to hear someone's explanation for the impressions at both ends of this bullet.

Also, what is name of the bullet on the Left? Maynard? No. I forget.

Here are the other two bullets I purchased. One is a Washington Armory bullet and the other is a swaged bullet.
My question is why was it called "swaged". To me it should be called a "machined bullet". Was turned so the grooves could be machined or was it actually swaged for form them?

I got a good deal---I thought---from the owner. He cut me a discount. Bullets were $3 and $4 each but he dropped the prices of my final purchase.

 

[tbuckley]

The bullet on the left is a Williams Cleaner.

 

[JOHN42768]

Williams Cleaner type 1

 

[alan polk]

I would like to hear someone's explanation for the impressions at both ends of this bullet.

Looks to me like the screw might have penetrated through and through the body of the bullet.

 

[Package4]

Just returned from a short visit to Chickamauga with stops at other battlefields, such as Iuka and Davis Bridge. While on my trip I was searching for some relic solid shot from canister rounds for one of the CWT members. I didn't find any source for them, yet.
I stopped at North MS Civil War Relics in Burnsville, MS, where I bought some pulled bullets. One was unusual. The shop owner said it was a double-loaded bullet that had to be pulled.

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Here is a view of that bullet with the other two bullets I bought. This shows both ends of this bullet---the center one.
I would like to hear someone's explanation for the impressions at both ends of this bullet.
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Also, what is name of the bullet on the Left? Maynard? No. I forget.

Here are the other two bullets I purchased. One is a Washington Armory bullet and the other is a swaged bullet.
My question is why was it called "swaged". To me it should be called a "machined bullet". Was turned so the grooves could be machined or was it actually swaged for form them?
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I got a good deal---I thought---from the owner. He cut me a discount. Bullets were $3 and $4 each but he dropped the prices of my final purchase.

The bullet in the center looks to have been fired......

 

[Frederick14Va]

Does the center bullet have any thread marks within the cavity?...

Based on the location of the rings it appears that this actually is the bottom or cavity end of the bullet. The other end being deformed by heavy handed ramrod use. Likely became stuck, forced down which further deformed it, then fired out. Leaving the deformed appearance that it had been pulled.

 

[DixieRifles]

Based on the location of the rings it appears that this actually is the bottom or cavity end of the bullet. The other end being deformed by heavy handed ramrod use. Likely became stuck, forced down which further deformed it, then fired out. Leaving the deformed appearance that it had been pulled.

I think you are correct. There are groove rings on it---I have it inverted compared to orientation of the other 2.
It appears the nose end has dirt in it. I think I will soak it and see if the threaded bore goes completely through it.

In answer to the other question, it does have rifling but so does the other two. I have pulled a few balls out of my rifles but most of them are patched (or fit into a sabot) and it comes out with no rifling marks. So I don't know what to expect after pulling a Minie ball.

 

[DixieRifles]

Mystery solved.

It was threaded completely thru. That was mud in the center that you can see in the above photo.

This is the nose of the bullet with a clearly defined thread in the hole.
The other end, with the grooves, has a hole but the threads are not visible.

 

[Frederick14Va]

Mystery solved.

It was threaded completely thru. That was mud in the center that you can see in the above photo.
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This is the nose of the bullet with a clearly defined thread in the hole.
The other end, with the grooves, has a hole but the threads are not visible.

Ok that makes much more sence. In the earlier image the battered nose end appeared to still be solid.

Once the bullet gets wedged and stuck in the barrel... beating it to death with the rammer trying to get it seated down at the breach many times will leave imprint of the rifling on the bullet.