New model army

[Jmhnl]

I have a Remington new model army with serial number 111265. Can someone tell me the year of manufacture and possibly who took delivery? I have attached pictures. I did not include a picture of the cylinder but there are no marks on it that I can tell. Thanks.

 

[UCVRelics]

I have a Remington new model army with serial number 111265. Can someone tell me the year of manufacture and possibly who took delivery? I have attached pictures. I did not include a picture of the cylinder but there are no marks on it that I can tell. Thanks.

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With the 6 digit # it post CW and is not listed in the SRS serial # date base. Still a good looking Remington.

 

[USS ALASKA]

Dang, I so thought this was going to be a thread about the rock band...


USS ALASKA

 

[ConfederateCanuck]

There are no precise records on the serial numbers by date. But based on overall production, and the dates of various contracts, your gun was most likely made in 1865. The US government purchased 109,811 of these between 1863 and 1865. Prior to that, about 18,000 were made under prior contracts, including the US government. So if you do the rough math, yours is most likely from 1865.

 

[Jmhnl]

There are no precise records on the serial numbers by date. But based on overall production, and the dates of various contracts, your gun was most likely made in 1865. The US government purchased 109,811 of these between 1863 and 1865. Prior to that, about 18,000 were made under prior contracts, including the US government. So if you do the rough math, yours is most likely from 1865.

Thanks

 

[JOHN42768]

Welcome, enjoy

 

[scooter748driver]

Welcome from the Fort Sumter and the Fredericksburg forums.

Nice looking Remington. I recently acquired a Remington-Beals Navy.

 

[Mk VII]

The table in Ware's book suggests Nov. 1864.

 

[Salterr]

This is very interesting, so far three different answers. I'm interested in seeing where the post goes from here.

 

[Mk VII]

They're all ballpark estimates, and not too far off from each other.

 

[Salterr]

They're all ballpark estimates, and not too far off from each other.

Sometimes that makes all the difference in the collecting field though. I personally don't collect in this field to be in the ballpark but some might. It makes a huge difference between post war items and war time just like there are certain coins that while of the same era their mint marks and years produced can mean the difference between a $45 coin or a $3000 one for the literal same type.

I like to collect that way so that I know what I have. A painting that kinda looks like a Picasso vs. a real Picasso is not where you want to be if you're shelling out good hard earned money for the real stuff.

I still wonder why some manufacturers didn't keep as good a record as the next but all in all whatever the outcome, that's a fine looking addition to any collection.

 

[Jeff in Ohio]

Sometimes that makes all the difference in the collecting field though. I personally don't collect in this field to be in the ballpark but some might. It makes a huge difference between post war items and war time just like there are certain coins that while of the same era their mint marks and years produced can mean the difference between a $45 coin or a $3000 one for the literal same type.

I like to collect that way so that I know what I have. A painting that kinda looks like a Picasso vs. a real Picasso is not where you want to be if you're shelling out good hard earned money for the real stuff.

I still wonder why some manufacturers didn't keep as good a record as the next but all in all whatever the outcome, that's a fine looking addition to any collection.

As to manufactures keeping records, that was not a matter of much value to them - they kept track of how many made and how many shipped and of course how many paid for. But serial number dates were not of much use

 

[Salterr]

As to manufactures keeping records, that was not a matter of much value to them - they kept track of how many made and how many shipped and of course how many paid for. But serial number dates were not of much use

It would come in handy now but I see why it wouldn't be a priority. Just like all other things they're meant to be used, it isn't until later that we realize the importance of collecting them. I remember my dad always saying he wished he knew enough to not put his baseball cards in the wheel spokes of his bike or sell that 1960's muscle car before the market pushed them to super high prices. My grandmother throwing out my grandfathers comic collection from the 40's and 50's without the research of what they'd go for now. Information is important, too much of it gets lost to time.

 

[Pollaco]

I don't have my copy handy but didn't Turner Kirkland have a list of serial numbers for various firearms in the back of the Dixie Gun Works catalog?

 

[bayonet]

It would come in handy now but I see why it wouldn't be a priority. Just like all other things they're meant to be used, it isn't until later that we realize the importance of collecting them. I remember my dad always saying he wished he knew enough to not put his baseball cards in the wheel spokes of his bike or sell that 1960's muscle car before the market pushed them to super high prices. My grandmother throwing out my grandfathers comic collection from the 40's and 50's without the research of what they'd go for now. Information is important, too much of it gets lost to time.

Or like my Father that threw away my massive comic book collection (lots of Spider Man) from the 60s when he said "Comic Books are for Morons"! Yeah thanks Dad I could of brought a house on there value today!

 

[R. Porter]

Dang, I so thought this was going to be a thread about the rock band...


USS ALASKA

I thought it was going to be a thread about Oliver Cromwell"s revolutionary overhaul of existing military design and philosophy to create the first modern army in the world. I was expecting a history lesson to show the true beginnings of the military organizations that would square off against each other during the Civil War.

 

[iac249]

I believe style of front sight post can also give a general idea of year of manufacture. Remington made changes over the course of the model's production lifetime.

 

[JerryD]

I thought it was going to be a thread about Oliver Cromwell"s revolutionary overhaul of existing military design and philosophy to create the first modern army in the world. I was expecting a history lesson to show the true beginnings of the military organizations that would square off against each other during the Civil War.

Me too! I was wondering how someone was going to compare the English Civil War to the American one! Not to highjack the thread, but I do remember someone comparing Cromwell to Lee, but cant remember the particulars, other than they were both rebels.

 

[ConfederateCanuck]

I believe style of front sight post can also give a general idea of year of manufacture. Remington made changes over the course of the model's production lifetime.

The high serial number precludes this. All of the changes were incorporated supposedly by S/N 19,793, but I suspect (not confirmed) some additional guns into the 20,000 range may have been "transitional" with a mix of parts that were left over. In any case, based on 19,793 as the cutoff, the gun in question would have been "standard".

 

[John Hartwell]

Dang, I so thought this was going to be a thread about the rock band...


USS ALASKA

My first thought was Sir Thomas Fairfax and the English Civil War!
[Never heard of the rock band.]