What is this? Markings on Sword

[hink441]

Can somebody provide some info on the markings on this sword? Available in a local antique store. It appears to be a light arty sword. Thanks I'm advance.

Chris

 

[JOHN42768]

S.K. are the initials of inspector Samuel Knous

 

[hink441]

Thank you for the inspector information. Was he inspecting swords for Ames in Mass?

Any info on the markings on the guard? Is that Lt Colonel or Light Company, or something totally different??

 

[UCVRelics]

Can somebody provide some info on the markings on this sword? Available in a local antique store. It appears to be a light arty sword. Thanks I'm advance.

Chris

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Look on top of the pommel and see if there are any initials stamped there.

 

[JOHN42768]

"U.S. Military Arms Inspector Marks" by Daum & Pate list him for many firearms and Ames M1840 Cavalry and 1832 Foot Artillery, but not necessarily a complete list.

 

[hink441]

Look on top of the pommel and see if there are any initials stamped there.

Unfortunately I don't own this sword. I was trying to figure out what " Lt Co A2 A11" meant. I will take another look at this sword tomorrow. What else should I look for? Thank you.

 

[UCVRelics]

If it was a US contract sword there would be a US and a date and would have a makers mark on the other side. I'm leaning foreign with the Lt Co A2 A11 as that is not how a US unit would be represented.

 

[hink441]

In the first two pictures you can see the "US" mark above the "SK" inspectors mark. The US marking looks like it was worn away for some reason.

 

[Salterr]

Can somebody provide some info on the markings on this sword? Available in a local antique store. It appears to be a light arty sword. Thanks I'm advance.

Chris

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Is this wrapped with electrical tape!?

 

[Salterr]

It also looks like the sk is punched over something else when you blow the picture up. I'd pass on this but that's just one man's opinion.

 

[hink441]

Is this wrapped with electrical tape!?

Yes the handle is wrapped in electrical tape. Seller wants $450 I believe.

 

[Salterr]

If you are looking to purchase this sword I would see if you can get it cheaper. If you save a little more one with a scabbard and better markings will show up. There is a contact here that restores sword grips so it all depends on how you want to collect and what you want to make your collection out of.

 

[bayonet]

At that price pass on it. To restore the grip with Tom Nardi will cost more plus shipping it to him & back. Unless you get them to sell it to you a whole lot less. Follow the auctions and dealers at shows and online. For just a tad bit more you can get a decent Artillery Saber and with a scabbard. Union ACW swords are going for way less at auctions recently. I just grabbed one at a shockingly low bid. I'll post it when I get it to ask a question on it.

 

[R. Porter]

The hilt with a recess for the throat of the scabbard, blade with US acceptance mark and S.K inspector's mark and grooved grip core should make this an Ames model 1840 mounted artillery saber type I. The recess in the guard for the scabbard dates this to 1860 or earlier. The earliest date should be 1845 although, according to Thillmann, a single sword with an 1844 date has been found.

The stuff on the knuckle bow looks like a unit marking, although not the way the Germanic states would mark them. We're always reading about how after the war the U.S. sold tons of small arms to European countries. Perhaps this sword was a mercenary during the Franco-PrussianWar.

 

[hink441]

Thank you for all the great information!! I think I will follow the advice and pass on this one.

Chris