Lincoln (2012)

[Nathanb1]

Finally saw the movie this evening... The theater was packed and you could hear a pin drop through most of the movie and while people exited. I thought it was well done...

All except the scene that showed a poorly covered electrical conduit.

So you saw it?

 

[Nathanb1]

Well, I went to Les Mis. Now if they'd just do a Civil War movie with singing.....

 

[Jake Patterson]

Well, I went to Les Mis. Now if they'd just do a Civil War movie with singing.....

I thought it was very well done and discussed a part of that period few historians cover... It leaves you to wonder what would have happen if the 13th Amendment didn't pass?

 

[Union_Buff]

I saw the trailer for the movie last night and I was very impressed with Day-Lewis as Lincoln. Might have to see it when and if it comes to New Zealand.

 

[Nathanb1]

I thought it was very well done and discussed on a part of that period few historians cover... It leaves you to wonder what would have happen if the 13th Amendment didn't pass?

Just kidding. I have a fondness for Les Mis. I plan to see Lincoln when I can. Unlike most of you, I have to travel about 45 miles just to go to a theater....which may or may not show the films I want to see! I had to pick one for Christmas, and it was Les Mis! (Which I give several thumbs up to!)

 

[cash]

Just kidding. I have a fondness for Les Mis. I plan to see Lincoln when I can. Unlike most of you, I have to travel about 45 miles just to go to a theater....which may or may not show the films I want to see! I had to pick one for Christmas, and it was Les Mis! (Which I give several thumbs up to!)

My daughter loved it, with the exception of Russell Crowe's singing.

 

[Nathanb1]

My daughter loved it, with the exception of Russell Crowe's singing.

I thought he was pretty good! At least there was a little bit of black powder on the screen!

Loved Anne Hathaway and the girl who played Eponine....Samantha Barks. Thank God they didn't pick Taylor Swift!

The weird part....the little girl who played young Cosette looked just like one of my daughter's classmates when she was young. It freaked both of us out so much I really had trouble concentrating on that part. We didn't mention it to each other till later --Alamo Drafthouse has very strict rules about talking--but she was as shaken as I was.

I highly recommend it. The revolution was a bust, but the musical was great.

 

[K Hale]

Totally off topic, but speaking of Les Mis: I went with family to see Parental Guidance tonight (meh, btw), and on the way in, a man and woman were leaving and talking about a movie being sold out. We asked what movie they had intended to see, and the man said, "Less Miserables or something." Exactly as if it were in English. I chuckled for a while over that...

 

[BillO]

Totally off topic, but speaking of Les Mis: I went with family to see Parental Guidance tonight (meh, btw), and on the way in, a man and woman were leaving and talking about a movie being sold out. We asked what movie they had intended to see, and the man said, "Less Miserables or something." Exactly as if it were in English. I chuckled for a while over that...

I don't think it's fair to men to take them to see this mess without telling them that the whole thing is sung.
I haven't seen the movie but did see the Broadway Musical on one of my trips to NYC. I thought it was horrible. But I quess I'm simply not cultured enough to appreciate it. It's an opera in English and I can't stand opera either.

 

[lakertaker]

I don't think it's fair to men to take them to see this mess without telling them that the whole thing is sung.
I haven't seen the movie but did see the Broadway Musical on one of my trips to NWC. I thought it was horrible. But I quess I'm simply not cultured enough to appreciate it. It's an opera in English and I can't stand opera either.

If it wasn't for the singing, musicals wouldn't be half-bad.

 

[101combatvet]

I saw about 15 minutes of it and then walked out of the theater.

 

[ForeverFree]

from Lincoln script-

LINCOLN:
We begin with equality. That's the origin, isn't
it? That balance, that's fairness, that's justice.

Lincoln was not a proponent of equality.

In terms of the standards of the day, Lincoln was a proponent of equality. In 1854, Lincoln said in Peoria,

When the white man governs himself, that is self-government; but when he governs himself and also governs another man, that is more than self-government — that is despotism. If the negro is a man, why then my ancient faith teaches me that "all men are created equal," and that there can be no moral right in connection with one man's making a slave of another.​

The Declaration of Independence states that "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." This informed Lincoln's definition of equality: he believed that all men were entitled to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. This would mean that blacks should not be enslaved - slavery deprived them of their natural rights.

But inalienable natural rights were not the same thing as civil rights, which would mean, for example, equal voting rights. Based on 19th century attitudes and beliefs, Lincoln did take a position in favor of equality, but his position seems intolerable to current American values.

- Alan

 

[Greg Taylor]

If it wasn't for the singing, musicals wouldn't be half-bad.

I'm not big on musicals either. Liked "Xanadu", but only because of Olivia Newton John riding around on roller skates!

 

[cash]

http://www.examiner.com/article/ste...be-released-on-blu-ray-and-dvd-on-february-26

 

[Nathanb1]

I don't think it's fair to men to take them to see this mess without telling them that the whole thing is sung.
I haven't seen the movie but did see the Broadway Musical on one of my trips to NYC. I thought it was horrible. But I quess I'm simply not cultured enough to appreciate it. It's an opera in English and I can't stand opera either.

Well, note my husband and son in law were not invited, either.

 

[K Hale]

I saw about 15 minutes of it and then walked out of the theater.

Lincoln or Les Mis?

 

[Nathanb1]

Totally off topic, but speaking of Les Mis: I went with family to see Parental Guidance tonight (meh, btw), and on the way in, a man and woman were leaving and talking about a movie being sold out. We asked what movie they had intended to see, and the man said, "Less Miserables or something." Exactly as if it were in English. I chuckled for a while over that...

I kept wanting to say something about Lee's Miserables....it felt like the 2nd night at Fredericksburg in there!!! We only picked the coldest night of the year to go. The plus side is that we had lots of good hot chocolate since we were at Alamo Drafthouse! (Their seats are horribly uncomfortable, though)

 

[101combatvet]

Lincoln or Les Mis?

Lincoln.... got a text message and had to leave the theater. Plan on going back though.

 

[K Hale]

Lincoln.... got a text message and had to leave the theater. Plan on going back though.

Oh. Ha, your first post gave the impression that you left because you hated it.

 

[101combatvet]

Oh. Ha, your first post gave the impression that you left because you hated it.

I know.... I did. But I will give it the full 2 1/2 hours to be sure. I was a little upset over Tad playing with a map of Petersburg in late 1862. Who would have known?

I would like to know the script writers historical qualifications.